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I found this and found it funny :

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Just days after the launch of open-source browser Firefox 1.0, Microsoft executives defended Internet Explorer, saying it is no less secure than any other browser and doesn't lack any important features.

At a security roundtable discussion in Sydney on Thursday, Ben English, Microsoft's security and management product manager, told attendees that IE undergoes "rigorous code reviews" and is no less secure than any other browser.

"Because IE is ubiquitous, you hear a lot more about it, but I don't think that Internet Explorer is any less secure than any other browser out there," English said.

Steve Vamos, Microsoft Australia's managing director, agreed, saying he does not believe IE's market share is under attack following the recent high-profile debut of the Mozilla Foundation's Firefox browser.

Vamos said that although he has heard other people mention the competitive threat posed by Firefox, he doesn't see it as a problem.

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IE is probably the worst for security and they say there is nothing wrong with IE's security

Just cause IE comes as standard on Microsoft doesn't mean FFox is not a threat I think Microsoft should be worried by it.

Sorry if this is really old . Do you think IE is under threat from FFox?

I think these two images fit in well




Firefox pwns IE. it's faster, has more features, looks better and is open-sourced.

And yes, I think IE is  threatened by Mozilla. I think Microsoft is threatened by Mozilla It's only a matter of time before Mozilla makes an operating system that's faster, more stable, has more features than Windows and is open sourced .

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Originally posted by Carltos Cool
"Because IE is ubiquitous, you hear a lot more about it, but I don't think that Internet Explorer is any less secure than any other browser out there," English said.

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I really agree with that.
I dont like arguing nor I have something against Firefox but, can you tell me some sites where i can get my computer infected with spyware?
The only sites that come to my mind are porn sites(install dialers if you choose to install them) and some other illegal sites...
I visist these forums, search google and go to sites and no signal of spyware in my computer...
Some people shouldnt believe everything they read on the net...
I can only call Firefox a bit securer than IE because Firefox doesnt display ActiveX warnings when you are visit some of the sites mentioned above...
IE just shows them and you choose if you want to install the ActiveX or not...

But please, let's not start another Browser-war thread...

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Originally posted by Mike2
But please, let's not start another Browser-war thread...

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I am not trying to make a browser war thread. I am just asking should IE/MS be worried about FireFox?

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Originally posted by blade
It's only a matter of time before Mozilla makes an operating system that's faster, more stable, has more features than Windows and is open sourced

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Linus torvald alredy has

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Originally posted by Carltos Cool
I am just asking should IE/MS be worried about FireFox?

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not at all... since IE comes with windows, there's no possible threat from firefox... an enormous amount of all the PC users in the world know "the internet" as a blue 'e' letter on their desktop... if MS don't replace it's browser (which comes with every single copy of windows) with firefox, they have nothing to worry about...

if you Follow Netscape, the next Netscape release is gonna have 2  Engines in it, the IE Engine Plus the Default which is Gecko, so M$$$ an AOLHELL both have a Win /win situation what the Next Netscape release will be is the Code base will be Based on firefox1.0 , more oinfo can be found searching google or cnet news or http://sillydog.org/

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Originally posted by blade
it's faster

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Actually, that's the main reason for me *not* using Firefox: it starts up way too slow on my machine.

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has more features

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. Some privacy/advanced features are really missing in IE (as with most MS apps), although I'm mostly fine with what it's got.

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looks better

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, but that's not such an important thing.

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and is open-sourced.

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Great, but that fact by itself has nothing to do with how good the browser is.

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It's only a matter of time before Mozilla makes an operating system that's faster, more stable, has more features than Windows and is open sourced .

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Gimme a break... It took them like 10 years to make a good browser (and it still has some rendering glitches), it would take them 50 years to make an OS. But I do believe that some Japanese/Korean/Chinese company will make a superior OS one day and take over the market.

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Gimme a break... It took them like 10 years to make a good browser (and it still has some rendering glitches), it would take them 50 years to make an OS. But I do believe that some Japanese/Korean/Chinese company will make a superior OS one day and take over the market.

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10 years? firefox did not take that long to make. What about the original mozilla.. which is what netscape is based off. Netscape was the top browser for years.

From my experience Firefox renders pages better than IE. The only reason some pages don't load properly in Firefox is because they don't comply with W3C standards. I expect to write some CSS and for it to be displayed the way it is meant to be displayed, IE just does its own thing.

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Originally posted by heatus
10 years? firefox did not take that long to make. What about the original mozilla.. which is what netscape is based off. Netscape was the top browser for years.

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IE hasn't changed much since the 90s, yet Mozilla only recently started to seriously threaten it (or something). It took them many years to really be able to challenge IE. IMO, they're just too slow since they are free open source and have no deadlines/money.

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From my experience Firefox renders pages better than IE. The only reason some pages don't load properly in Firefox is because they don't comply with W3C standards. I expect to write some CSS and for it to be displayed the way it is meant to be displayed, IE just does its own thing.

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You admit that Firefox gets glitches sometimes (unlike IE), yet you say it renders better? How does it render better? IE may render differently, but it doesn't mess pages up. Perhaps you're referring to W3C compliance?

I agree that ideally, complying with the W3C "standards" would be the best solution for everyone. But the simple fact is, the Web's *practical* standard nowadays is IE. And since there's no global Web authority to decide or enforce anything, IE is actually more of a "standard" than W3C.

I don't like or support IE, but I do acknowledge that it dominates the Web. The browser wars are long gone, IE won. The Web is so IE-oriented now, that I can hardly imagine W3C prevailing. IE is more Web-compatible than any W3C-compliant browser.