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A bit off topic...

Don't think for a second that if the big four (AIM, MSN, ICQ, Y!M) disappeared that nobody would be able to get by without them.  There are better solutions (namely IRC) out there, actually.  You can argue this point if you want, but IRC wins. Kthx
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RE: Why Have You Sold-out?
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Don't think for a second that if the big four (AIM, MSN, ICQ, Y!M) disappeared that nobody would be able to get by without them.  There are better solutions (namely IRC) out there, actually.  You can argue this point if you want, but IRC wins.
Irc wins in which field exactly? Not in user friendlyness, for sure, which is the main point of instant messaging...
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RE: [split] IRC better solution than IM?
It also loses out majorly on security.
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RE: [split] IRC better solution than IM?
ive personlly never tried it.. because i couldnt understand how it worked at that time.. i belive thats why its not the best ;-)
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RE: [split] IRC better solution than IM?
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It also loses out majorly on security.

IMs aren't that hard to hack either (or so I'm told). If you really need security, send a letter, or talk face to face.
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RE: [split] IRC better solution than IM?
IRC vs IM :
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[*]In IRC you have lots and lots of people to talk with and in IM clients you only have guys in your list...(+ for IRC)
[*]In IRC you get Spammed pretty easily because of whats shown above...(+ for IM)
[*]IRC has a crappy GUI in comparison with Most IM Clients(+ for IM)
[*]IM Clients tend to eat more resources then IRC clients..(+ for IRC)
[*]You can Mod IRC(yep i changed Mirc once..pretty cool...eh the old days at 133 Mhz :D) (+ For IRC)
[*]IM is Safer(+ for IM)

Result :

IM - 3 points
IRC - 3 points

...You choose what you like the best :)...Though i prefer IM clients..

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RE: [split] IRC better solution than IM?
IM clients have voice and webcam capabilities and MSN has display pictures etc..

something that IRC doesn't have

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RE: [split] IRC better solution than IM?
There different things with different purpose.  Both allow communication but with different means and results there not actually that comparative to be honest
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RE: [split] IRC better solution than IM?
I agree with Wabz. They can't really be compared, however I'd like to point out a couple of things:

IRC is the protocol. The language between IRC clients. IRC is NOT insecure, the protocol is in fact so damn simple an exploit is very unlikely. Do not refer to mIRC (the most popular client) as "IRC" because that is NOT what it is.

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ive personlly never tried it.. because i couldnt understand how it worked at that time.. i belive thats why its not the best


If you don't understand it then you need to take a bit of time TO understand it. It isn't that hard. IRC is networking at the lowest level. You interact directly with the server and you are not forced on tons of pointy-clicky dialogs in most clients.

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Irc wins in which field exactly? Not in user friendlyness, for sure, which is the main point of instant messaging...


It's not MEANT to be userfriendly. It's meant to be functional.

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In IRC you get Spammed pretty easily because of whats shown above...(+ for IM)


I am on IRC 24/7. I am connected to, say, about 12 servers. I am in about 50 channels. I have NEVER had some random infected client DCC me. I have NEVER been spammed. You do NOT get spammed in general, it's just what people think.

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IRC has a crappy GUI in comparison with Most IM Clients(+ for IM)


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You can Mod IRC(yep i changed Mirc once..pretty cool...eh the old days at 133 Mhz ) (+ For IRC)


IRC is not a program. It is a protocol. You cannot "mod" an protocol. A protocol does not have a GUI. You are referring to mIRC, the most popular IRC client.

Plus, scripting mIRC is highly advanced and there isn't a thing you can't do with it (especially with the ability to call routines in DLLs). It allows you to customise every aspect of your client.

mIRC does not have a GUI apart from the options really, it uses commands. A command allows for far more versatility than a stupid GUI gives you. Any command you use can be used in a script which allows you to call many commands at a time to automate tasks (connecting to servers, joining chans, identifying yourself......etc).


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IM is Safer(+ for IM)


There has only been ONE exploit for mIRC, and all it allowed was for a person to crash your IRC client with a malformed DCC Send line. People think m/IRC is unsafe because they do not understand it. It takes barely any energy to protect yourself.

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IM clients have voice and webcam capabilities and MSN has display pictures etc..

something that IRC doesn't have


That's why you have IM apps, IRC's not meant to replace that :)

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RE: [split] IRC better solution than IM?
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# In IRC you have lots and lots of people to talk with and in IM clients you only have guys in your list...(+ for IRC)
# In IRC you get Spammed pretty easily because of whats shown above...(+ for IM)
# IRC has a crappy GUI in comparison with Most IM Clients(+ for IM)
# IM Clients tend to eat more resources then IRC clients..(+ for IRC)
# You can Mod IRC(yep i changed Mirc once..pretty cool...eh the old days at 133 Mhz ) (+ For IRC)
# IM is Safer(+ for IM)

Result :

IM - 3 points
IRC - 3 points

...You choose what you like the best ...Though i prefer IM clients..
Same here ..... i vote for im too :P Much more user friendly and better gui imo :D
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