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O.P. This is a total joke!!!, uninstall?, who you trying to kid?
What a joke!!!.

I downloaded this program out of curiosity because everyone was going on about how good it is, what a joke!!!. How can microsoft allow a spyware / banner infected program to even merge with their official software?. During software installation, you provide an installment of banner ads, toolbars, and spyware, yes spyware. Who you trying to kid here?. During uninstallation (which occured very quickly on this machine, believe me), you ask for a validation number. The casual PC user will be easily satisfied and convinced to believe the program has been uninstalled properly / totally from the system (yeah right), which brings me swiftly onto my next point. When running messenger plus, if you take a look in the processes dialog, you will see internet explorer is always running taking up valuable system resources (regardless to whether it is actually closed or not). For someone who has low ram, and enough applications open, this is enough to cause slowness and problems. Then comes the ads (another joke) but granted, you do state this during installment (but for the user who reads over everything, this is a trick). During uninstallation you are promised with dialogs that everything has been uninstalled, and removed from the system. Yet, internet explorer remains running (again regardless as to whether it is closed or not) and ads and banners still popup. Spyware is still detected (even though plus claims to remove this). So, how do you explain this one?. You claim microsoft are aware of your addon, but I'm not so sure they know everything. If an official awnser and removal solution is not met to my statement A.S.A.P, I shall write an official complaint to microsoft or the authorities and take it further. (This is not a joke), and generally I go by what I say. I do not expect some dodgy comment, or sarcastic reply back as Messenger Plus is "official" (so we are lead to believe), even if the program is not part of microsoft, yet microsoft are aware, they have every right to know if an application using their products are causing security risks to millions of users worldwide.

I don't appreciate my PC being infected with spyware which can soon lead to trojans and other security issues, and I certainly do not appreciate being left with spyware (when your official addon claims to remove it). To me this seems like a deliberate programming error.

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08-03-2005 09:44 PM
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RE: This is a total joke!!!, uninstall?, who you trying to kid?
Okay, did you restart after installing the Adware.

IEXPLORER.EXE stays running after you uninstall the Adware, till you restart.
08-03-2005 09:48 PM
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RE: This is a total joke!!!, uninstall?, who you trying to kid?
omg, another one of these threads... people should read what they install...

1 adware not spyware
2 its what makes the program free
3 you can uninstal it by going to add/remove programs
4 it asks you whether or not u wish to instal the sponsor program... its OPTIONAL..
5 the creator Patchou has met with microsoft they know all about this program...
6 microsoft antispyware beta wrongly pics up messenger plus as spyware (1 its adware 2 even when the sponsor is not installed MS Antispyware still thinks it is... ) search the forum... theres loads of threads about spyware...

[Image: mp3_sponsor.png]

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08-03-2005 09:49 PM
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RE: This is a total joke!!!, uninstall?, who you trying to kid?
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=48356

that thread will explain all, this has nothing to do with microsoft :P

microsoft supports plus!and the creator was invited on a trip with them recently.  and it's OPTONAL ADWARE :dodgy:

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08-03-2005 09:51 PM
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O.P. RE: This is a total joke!!!, uninstall?, who you trying to kid?
Well, okay then, I think I have every right to panic though. If he's so quick to bundle ads and what not on with the program, surely he should document this better. I clicked I accept because I thought I was accepting to install Messenger Plus. It is poorly designed. The thing is, I actually like the programs features, it is fun to use. I just paniced when I saw IE still running after. Sorry for going off on one like that, but I'm very paranoid when it comes to my PC because it is my livelyhood :), if you can promise me this won't mess up my pc, there won't be any problems, I know they have to make money some how

My full apologies to the creator of messenger plus, and those involved. I restarted and things seem fine now. I just panic thats all. Perhaps you should explain abit better that changes wont take place until you restart. I know nothing about programming and stuff like this, so to me that was security hazard. I will download plus again without installing the ads, and this time I will read :|

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08-03-2005 09:55 PM
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RE: This is a total joke!!!, uninstall?, who you trying to kid?
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erhaps you should explain abit better that changes wont take place until you restart.
It is explained during the uninstall. But yes, maybe it could be made a little more clear.
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08-03-2005 10:06 PM
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O.P. RE: This is a total joke!!!, uninstall?, who you trying to kid?
I'm terribly sorry, I feel a right meanie now :(
08-03-2005 10:07 PM
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RE: This is a total joke!!!, uninstall?, who you trying to kid?
there are 2 warning screens during installation :)

1 - [Image: sponsor45yy.jpg]

2 - [Image: mp3_sponsor.png]

surely that is warning enough?

and remember read what your installing :D

ohh more obvious about the restall part, my bad:P :$ ... i'll leave the pictures there though:P they're good reference

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RE: This is a total joke!!!, uninstall?, who you trying to kid?
Yeah, read everything when you install a software. You're lucky it was just MsgPlus!'s sponsor (which is a custom sponsor software, doesn't represent any security risk).

But many programs describe what they install in the license text. (Y) And some aren't very honest or clear about it.


Edit: btw, big kudos for being honest! (Y)

This post was edited on 08-03-2005 at 10:15 PM by L. Coyote.

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08-03-2005 10:11 PM
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RE: This is a total joke!!!, uninstall?, who you trying to kid?
i how my guide explained it :) it seemed to ;) you should read installers but don't bover with the licence :P
08-03-2005 10:16 PM
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