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First of all, if it works.. cool. =D, could end up being a solution, would be nice to have a Plan B if global warming or whatever makes the earth unhabitable, rather then mars. [that is if they can make a bigger model]

And for some reason if you go faster, then the speed of light, you go back in time... =P
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First of all, if it works.. cool. =D, could end up being a solution, would be nice to have a Plan B if global warming or whatever makes the earth unhabitable, rather then mars. [that is if they can make a bigger model]
Erm, but it would take millions/billions of years for it to develop enough for planets and solar systems to be formed, and then even longer for a planet to become inhabitable. and that's IF one becomes inhabitable.

We would die from global warming(if that does kill us) wayyyy before there was a secondary earth for us to move to.

AND THEN, there's the whole problem of actually moving humanity from one universe to another 8-)

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And for some reason if you go faster, then the speed of light, you go back in time... =P

That's only a theory, no one can prove it since we haven't made anything go faster than the speed of light, yet. (at least I think anyway :P)

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It would certainly be interesting to go faster than the speed of light :D Lets enter the Star Wars / Star Trek era yay :P lol
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RE: Machine to create new universes
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First of all, if it works.. cool. =D, could end up being a solution, would be nice to have a Plan B if global warming or whatever makes the earth unhabitable, rather then mars. [that is if they can make a bigger model]
If, hypothetically a planet formed that was inhabitable, the machine isn't quite big enough to create a planet that could fit 6 billion or so people. The machine would have to be larger than our solar system at least, to fit in a planet, a star, the orbit of the planet...etc etc. It just wouldn't work at all.
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But i think it would be cool to make a mini universe and see how it all works out :)
w00t Sim City! :p

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And for some reason if you go faster, then the speed of light, you go back in time... =P
This is true if you're using Newtonian Physics, but thanks to Special Relativity (ugh, that again :P) not only is it impossible to reach the speed of light, but the speed of light is always constant; so even if you were somehow travelling at 'c' (3e8 m/s ie. the speed of light) then light would still appear to be travelling faster than you, you wouldn't be able to 'overtake' any light waves (and hence 'go back in time').

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It would certainly be interesting to go faster than the speed of light  Lets enter the Star Wars / Star Trek era yay  lol
Like I said before, the effects depicted in Star Wars and Star Trek (in terms of travel, not the flashing lights) do not require travelling faster than the speed of light, by travelling at 0.999999999 times the speed of light you can reach any point in the universe within a couple of seconds at most (and that is real physics, and is actually possible). Although by the time you get there Earth would have aged many billions of years (although the people in the spaceship would have only aged the few seconds which it took) - Special Relativity :p.
EDIT: The whole faster than light business is based on Newtonian Physics which says that if you're travelling at 'v', you'll reach your destination in distance divided by 'v' seconds which is simply just WRONG in practice.

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It would certainly be interesting to go faster than the speed of light  Lets enter the Star Wars / Star Trek era yay  lol
Like I said before, the effects depicted in Star Wars and Star Trek (in terms of travel, not the flashing lights) do not require travelling faster than the speed of light, by travelling at 0.999999999 times the speed of light you can reach any point in the universe within a couple of seconds at most (and that is real physics, and is actually possible). Although by the time you get there Earth would have aged many billions of years (although the people in the spaceship would have only aged the few seconds which it took) - Special Relativity :p.

That is kind of freaky when i think about it :S
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That is kind of freaky when i think about it :S
Yeah, it is pretty weird/freaky when you consider that its real and not science fiction :p Too bad we dont have the technology to feasibly get us going that fast (yet)... :(
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Like I said before, the effects depicted in Star Wars and Star Trek (in terms of travel, not the flashing lights) do not require travelling faster than the speed of light, by travelling at 0.999999999 times the speed of light you can reach any point in the universe within a couple of seconds at most (and that is real physics, and is actually possible). Although by the time you get there Earth would have aged many billions of years (although the people in the spaceship would have only aged the few seconds which it took) - Special Relativity
At 0.99999999*c you would take about 76 or so years to reach the nearest star so excuse me for thinking that travelling at the speed of light won't give us shit.
All we can use (for travelling at v->c) is to travel within the solar system quickly. If you want interstellar travel, you my friend need to travel faster than light. Warp travel ;)
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RE: Machine to create new universes
Another possible way to travel through time is to establish two worm holes, where if you go through the first one, you get to the second one. And, because this means that you travel a long distance (let's say: the 1st is on Earth and the 2nd on Mars) in a short period of time, you generate a high speed which means you travel through time! :D

The only problem is to get those worm holes established... :S

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RE: Machine to create new universes
Establishing wormholes basically means bending space-time. How do you bend a 3-d object? I have no idea...

Not to mention that it's highly unlikely that the inside of a wormhole will appear and perform like they do in things like Stargate... :p
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