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RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop
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Originally posted by Sam Spade
The big problem that I see is that:
1.  People don't read the EULA, as y'all well know.
2.  The 'sponsor program' is not installed until 36 hours after Messenger Plus is installed.
3.  People who don't read the EULA cannot make the association between the install of Messenger and the sudden appearance of adware and browser hijackings.
1) true, but that is not the developpers fault or the developpers task to do something about it. The only task for the developper is to make it clear. And in this case, it IS clear, despite all the things you're trying to proof... This sounds harsh, but people need to change their attitude and start reading the contracts they sign upon (cause that is exactly what an EULA/agreement is)... For every person who comes here bitching about how the sponsor installed without they knowing about it, there are 2 persons who admit that they forgot to read the EULA or admit in accidently pressing the wrong button...

2) 24 hours.... This is a current experiment. If it turns out this is not of the likings of many people, it will be removed again. (again proofs only that Patchou is concearned about it and is doing every possible thing to try and improve it!)

3) At last a small valid point (and that is also one of the reasons why the current delay is experimental). But, unless people are installing new things every day. The associating is easy to make. Also, it has 1 big benefit! The user can decide to keep Plus! or not without any sponsor being installed during this time. If the user decides to uninstall Plus! again, nothing will happen and the sponsor wasn't even installed during that time.

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Originally posted by Sam Spade
Now, IF users were properly warned about what the 'sponsor program' is and does during installation
For the last time: they ARE! That is exactly why the EULA is there...

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Originally posted by Sam Spade
Lop.com will change your home page and search engine settings and generate pop up advertisements
read the EULA, it is clearly stated there...

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Originally posted by smurlos
Yes, fair enough, but it's not like they HAVE to do that to earn money. Plenty of other ways...
If you have a better way (which will give Patchou a steady income) then by all means share it with us, we wouldn't be happier... Patchou will be the first person to remove the sponsor if such a method existed....

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Originally posted by SpecimenB
I liked the software. I'd have been willing to donate.
There is always the option to buy something from the online shop. In that way you also support Messenger Plus! (without the need of the sponsor) Donation has been taken of for the reasons which you can read in the link that WDZ provided....

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Originally posted by SpecimenB
quote:
Originally posted by Leif
May I quote Patchou:
"...the sponsor’s license agreement (yes, it could be redesigned to warn you better but then, nobody would install it, let’s be honest)..."

Being honest, if it had given me better warning and still let me refuse, the I would have still installed it anyway without the sponsor program.

The quote above only confirms to me that Patchou knows he's being sneaky and thus cares more for the payoff than the satisfaction of the users.
What Patchou meant was the sponsor. People wouldn't install the sponsor anymore. And that means Patchou will loose his income, and Plus! will stop being developped because of lack of time...

This post was edited on 09-30-2004 at 03:34 PM by CookieRevised.
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CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by MSGPlusRox on 09-30-2004 at 01:49 AM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by RebelSean on 09-30-2004 at 01:52 AM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by MSGPlusRox on 09-30-2004 at 01:58 AM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by RebelSean on 09-30-2004 at 02:00 AM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by MSGPlusRox on 09-30-2004 at 02:02 AM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by Chrono on 09-30-2004 at 02:14 AM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by MSGPlusRox on 09-30-2004 at 02:18 AM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by RebelSean on 09-30-2004 at 02:45 AM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by surfichris on 09-30-2004 at 02:54 AM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by matty on 09-30-2004 at 03:11 AM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by RebelSean on 09-30-2004 at 11:44 AM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by Sam Spade on 09-30-2004 at 01:10 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by CookieRevised on 09-30-2004 at 01:36 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by SpecimenB on 09-30-2004 at 02:04 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by CookieRevised on 09-30-2004 at 02:10 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by ddunk on 09-30-2004 at 02:11 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by smurlos on 09-30-2004 at 02:12 PM
RE: RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by Sam Spade on 09-30-2004 at 02:16 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by CookieRevised on 09-30-2004 at 02:22 PM
RE: RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by smurlos on 09-30-2004 at 02:45 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by MSGPlusRox on 09-30-2004 at 02:27 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by Sam Spade on 09-30-2004 at 02:38 PM
RE: RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by Leif on 09-30-2004 at 02:46 PM
RE: RE: RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by SpecimenB on 09-30-2004 at 03:00 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by MSGPlusRox on 09-30-2004 at 02:43 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by MSGPlusRox on 09-30-2004 at 02:50 PM
RE: RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by SpecimenB on 09-30-2004 at 02:55 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by WDZ on 09-30-2004 at 02:58 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by WDZ on 09-30-2004 at 03:04 PM
RE: RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by SpecimenB on 09-30-2004 at 03:05 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by CookieRevised on 09-30-2004 at 03:11 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by WDZ on 09-30-2004 at 03:11 PM
RE: RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by Sam Spade on 10-01-2004 at 12:24 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by WDZ on 10-01-2004 at 12:36 PM
RE: RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by Sam Spade on 10-01-2004 at 01:26 PM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by Patchou on 10-01-2004 at 11:34 PM
RE: RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by Sam Spade on 10-02-2004 at 06:15 AM
RE: CoolWWWSearch and Lop - by Patchou on 10-02-2004 at 07:24 AM


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