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1]If a virus turns off the security center+the virus scanner, people won't notice, because when the security center is turned off, it won't warn you that virus scanner is broken, and when the security center is turned off, you won't notice!! Therefore, I refer to it as "crappy".
can really a virus do that? i don't think so.
I read that in some magazine.. And if a user can turn off the security center, than logically a virus which has gained
root Administrator rights, could do that too
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If you are talking about revolutionary, you should be talking about the competition in 2005-2006. Mac OS X is already full of eye-candy, and the noob-friendly GNU/linux distributions seem to have hired some graphics artists too! (I've got this beatifull water+green grass+blue sky picture with SUSE 9.1!)
don't compare Mac to windows, because they run in different machines (apple vs x86)
Why not? They still are both OSes, and both are trying to be user friendly
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about linux, it's "user friendlyness" is very far from windows'. In 2001 you could connect an usb pen drive and Windows xp automatically detected it and "mounted" it in an unit (asigned a drive letter). Today, 2004, I haven't seen any linux able to do that. Just an example of the user friendly.
What kind of Server OS have you been running, Choli?
I don't know about USB pen drives (I'll ask my dad for his when he comes home, to check), but my USB mouse works perfectly, and gets detected very fast with
Knoppix (3.4-2004-05-17-EN, Knoppix is a Linux LIVE CD, which boots from a CD and doesn't need installation). Actually, Knoppix boots faster than Windows for me, even though it has to auto-detect all my hardware and load a few Gigabyte of data from a 750MB CD!
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M$'s integration is much better than linux', imo. Example: everywhere in windows you can do Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V to copy-paste things. In linux... well, that depends on the program. It may be select, middle click or Ctrl+K, Ctrl+Y or Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, etc... There's no a clear unification of the way things are done. That's the point where linuxers have to improve their kernel, programs, etc...
And you can help them to do that! (If you can code), since most linux programs are free software or open source. And, In my experience, you can do copy-paste everywhere in KDE. You do have a point, though, that some software (especially these not included with your distro) doesn't do [CTRL]+C/V
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And Windows has security holes? yes, the same as linux. But the ones of linux are less known and are constantly updated in next versions. A important thing to know is that Windows OS is way bigger than the kernel of Linux. THere are very much more lines of code in Windows. It's normal that there are bugs.
Because security holes in Linux don't immediately lead to a gigantic virus infection. And comparing the Linux kernel to Windows in amount of code isn't fair, since Windows is far more than just a kernel.
Linux is the kernel, GNU/Linux is the OS.
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With all this, i do not mean that windows is better. It has better things. Linux too. But for the final user, the in-home user, I'd highly recommend Windows.
But we were talking about 2006
You must admit that Linux is evolving very fast!
[..a few minutes please while I reply to Chaotic Shield]
[...thank you for waiting!]
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Originally posted by Chaotic_Shield
Well, I've used a couple of Mac computers in my short lifetime, and they seem to hang while starting up. I was at a science competition, and we had to put together a PowerPoint presentation (PP for Mac) and one of the computers lost power. We turned it back on, and it took, no joke, 45 minutes for it to get to the login screen. While this might look like I'm saying that Mac OS is bad, you might want to keep reading. Mac OS is MUCH more secure than Windows. Windows has too many security holes for my taste.
The actual problem is, I think that they can be exploted too easy, and over the internet.
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I patch them up as best I can, using programs like Norton, and Spybot, and Firefox 
. But there's only so far I can patch it without having to edit Windows. Which isn't all that hard, considering that all you have to do is open a command prompt window, and edit explorer.exe. Anyways, what I think is that Windows should look at trying to expand their market. They did a really good job with XP, as it almost never needed a restart, unless you did a big update (SP2 for example) to your computer.
Yeah sure. Even normal security patches need rebooting, and so does most software!
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Older versions (98, 95) sucked because you had to restart before you could use a program. Now, though, Microsoft has to focus on making their platform THE platform for everything. The main way to do this, in my opinion, is to add endless amounts of goodies that can be tapped by people installing certain programs. For example, let's say you have a graphics artist. Windows could have a feature that, when Photoshop (or a similiar program) was installed, cuold allow you to turn your desktop into a drawing studio, with dockable/hideable toolbars with the different tools. But these options wouldn't appear unless the person had Photoshop installed, because Windows would need a program that supported whatever was needed. Then, let's say you have a music mixer. What about having Windows allow access to advanced Windows Media features, such as creating an internet radio station hosted by Microsoft or some affiliate, or maybe adding features into Windows Media Player that allow the user to play around with the song as it's playing, to give him inspiration. Not only would these ideas increase product appeal, but they would also not take up much space or processing power, since they would only be activated when the required programs were installed. Of course, the feature to turn these things off would be included. Just my two cents.
IMO, the goodies suck. MS just adds new "goodies" for every new Windows version, but they should optimize what they have right now first, and
then, and only then, add new things.
edit2: I just plugged in my Dad's pen/memory stick, and SUSE 9.1 immediately detected it and asked if I wanted to mount it and open it in Konqueror (a (file)browser)
