I said to myself that I wasn't going to reply anymore as it wouldn't have any result anyway and it would be lost energie. But after some time and after your last post, Devilin, I need to reply (again)...
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Originally posted by Devilin
Opps forgot to turn of email notification, last post honest
We don't want you gone here, if you think that, though. You would've been banned long ago if that was the case...
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Originally posted by Devilin
Did I come here looking for links ? when you have your own uninstall guide, think about it
If you mean the getthefacts-page, no you didn't come here for links. But we offered it as an digested overview of some facts, to answer all the hard rumours that are out there. Despite you said you wanted to put the views of all the parties on your page, you declined it. Fine, your loss (in our opinion). No harm done...
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Originally posted by Devilin
Did I come here looking for approval, again think about it
Yes, I do think so. You said yourself that you wanted to check if the page was ok and asked if the uninstall routine was correct. But, nothing wrong in asking for approval of course...
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Originally posted by Devilin
And while you've thinking about it, consider this, its a high graphic content page
I don't get this point realy. Do you mean the graphics are the most important part? In that case, maybe you are correct. But the text accompanying graphics is actually as important though...
"A picture says thousand words", but a picture with a correct explaination tells the whole story...
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Originally posted by Devilin
? So why did I come here, why have I built an entire site dedicated to helping people ?, profit? The ads I run pay for the site, and creates enough revenue to produce another site, and what's the other site about, helping people, and a bit of fun
Turn that around....
Why do you think we are here? This forum counts thousands and thousands of members. People who are enthiousiastic MSN Messenger users. We are here to help them. This forum is created as the helpline of the most popular addon of MSN Messenger in the world. We wouldn't had so much members and users of Messenger Plus! (millions and millions of people) if we are full of "BS".
This forum is among the biggest Messenger-related forums in the world. Go take a look at comminuties like mess.be, msnfanatic, etc... and you'll see that almost all people will agree with "our" facts (which you call biased opinions).
In the end we both want the same thing. To inform and help other people. We are not here to play the boogie-man...
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Originally posted by Devilin
So why do I spend my valuable time helping people ? again think about it
Because you enjoy it doing that. Again, turn that around. It is the same for us. Nobody on this forum (and the other major forums) gets payed, nobody!
The only gratitude we get is the knowledge that with our help people understand better how things work and that they, after our help, can work out the things for themself with common sense. In our case that's mainly Messenger Plus!....
In our case, the only person that has some "cache" revenue is Patchou, the creator of all this. Who added an addware sponsor to cover for all the expenses that this major forum, the website, the dedicated server, etc... brings.
Again, if we were the boogie-man (as some sites claim) then why have we so many members and why are there so many people who use Plus! every day. If a program is bad, I can assure you that it wont have much users.
We do it for the good feeling of helping people out. Same as you...
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Originally posted by Devilin
If somebody wishes to discuss possible alterations, on a serious level, use my form, I'll arrange a neutral forum--- the offer is there, although I doubt it will be taken up---
If you like to continue ranting, please continue below this post
I can easly take this paragraph as offensive as we discussed the alternatives on a serious level, only you didn't wanted to grasp that and hided behind the same hollow arguments over and over again.
Also, don't hold it against us that we (at least I) don't believe in the "neutral" forum of yours anymore, after reading this thread. I, personaly, even offered you my time and help and assistance with your site to make it more professional (without changing the things you've put up there, even if they were incorrect IMO). I think that was a token of my seriousness and ability to stay neutral. If you think otherwise, your loss and no problem. But don't go posting that we aren't serieus and didn't try to discuss alternatives....
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Originally posted by Devilin
Have fun all
We sure will. And for you the same if you decide to leave us...
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