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Originally posted by CookieRevised
coherent means the individual parts need to have some kind of a relation to the whole. It is enough...
did you not read my post? as i said before... the telesales person (creator) still explains things coherently and believes it to be coherent him/herself. so do you believe that this is music?
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
That's indeed exactly what my definition says, see the words "for the creator or beholder". If it wasn't something subjective that line wouldn't be there.
where did you say beholder before? and sure having a beholder would make it subjective..... (beholders tend to have opinions)
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Music doesn't need to be alive at all. I can create something and call it music. For me it is music and since music is subjective, this is were it ends without discussion...
well that's your view i guess and we'll just have to agree to disagree
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
indeed. But now you're using the word "music" as something else, as a methafor and not literally; The bell may sound like "crazy" also, is the bell therefore crazy?
you used a poor exaple there... my one was "..is music to someone's ears" which decribes something pleasureable to hear. yes that is a metaphor, but surely the metaphor is a definition of music in itself.... think about it.
your one was "LIKE crazy" use of the word "like" implies similarity as opposed to definition
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