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Originally posted by Animal
you trying to get a job with Microsoft dane? ..the fact is.. IE7 shoulda been IE6  . IE7 will just break a lot of webpages, so there for lots of people will just move to  Firefox as people will have to rewrite there pages to suite IE7 Rendering  Pages differently

Every browser has added their own "standards" to the internet, even Gecko. It's not JUST Microsoft's fault (IE's fault) that several browser render the same page quite differently.

I've personally encountered a large nubmer of sites that DON'T render correctly on either Opera or Firefox but do on IE.


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Originally posted by Animal
firefox in its Nightly builds has improvements an Security ,, an more features, , firefox has extensions/plugins where as IE is very limmited,

Corporations and the average user do *NOT* keep up with nightly builds. It's just too tedious, inconvenient and time consuming especially for "big" corporations.

There's a reason why Microsoft takes so "long" to release security updates and now you know why.


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Originally posted by Svip
IE being safer than Firefox? Nah. It's just you falling under the arms of Microsoft's propaganda.

It is safer. Microsoft "propaganda" or no, it's a fact. I'm comparing IE7's security to Firefox MAIN RELEASES, not nightlys not trunks etc.

IE7 does far from impress me, in fact, it just proves my point that Microsoft is bad for the world, because of their amateur programming, their lack of understanding a correct struture of a program, and all that jazz.

Just a rant without reason. Just why does IE7 not impress you? And who said Microsoft was tailoring their software just for you? Your voice among the world's is insignificant.

Microsoft shouldn't do software. The world is bleeding cause of it, shouldn't surprise me if it's Windows' fault their even is a war in Iraq.

This proves my point about you being so biased, the software or even the concepts "fail" before you even load it up or see it/

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Originally posted by Svip
Moo, I was commenting on Dane's post.

Anyways, it probably wont, cause Microsoft just tries to cover the most common fawls and then say; "OMG MORE SECURE THAN FIREFOX!!! MWHAHAHAHA".

You obviously haven't run IE7 and seen what the team has been doing. Besides, it is not that IE is less secure, because it's not. It is just that IE is more popular and so, is focused on by hackers and exploiters alike. If the tables were turned and Firefox was the most popular browser, Firefox wouldn't last a day without an exploit being discovered.

And reality is that it's just one bit of the Internet it wins over Firefox at. But that's because it's IE problems. :\ So it can't be more secure than Firefox. lol

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Originally posted by Svip
"Safety" is how much access websites can get to your computer just by you viewing their page.

Merely by your definition and this is wrong.

As IE supports ActiveX and VB-Script, it makes it highly insecure, as ActiveX and VB-Script has a lot of errors and exploits, which means that people's files can be changed without them knowning it.

Both ActiveX and VB-Script allow for a countless number of things that can't be done without them. It is only "highly insecure" because exploiters and hackers alike focus on them. Once again, if the roles were reversed, Firefox would probably be updated daily. And Internet Explorer would wow the world for what ActiveX, when not used maliciously, can achieve.

@Time; Let's just agree to disagree, aye?

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Originally posted by: -dt-
so true , to increase IE's security they made IE run on its own limited user account!!!!!!!!!

So you admit IE7 is more secure than before. I don't get you people, you complain about security but when Microsoft do something about it, you bitch and moan and want it removed. Take SP2 for example, people have been bagging Microsoft for ages to increase security and they do, and now people complain. SP2's Security Center increases your computers PC, contrary to popular belief as do the many changes to the Operating System itself.

also wtf intergrated rss feeds heard of LIVE BOOKMARKS
search bar in top corner is so a rip off of opera and firefox.

Every product takes ideas from another, it's how they grow. Just take a look at Y!IM and MSN Messenger.

IE's whole new design is a rip off and its wrong.

Boo hoo. That's life, grow up and stop crying.

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Originally posted by: Savior
I've used it and to tell you the truth they ripped off netscape big time

Then every browser did.

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Now for the rest:

Go away troll.

Once you've started up your own company that produces better products than Microsoft, then and ONLY THEN can you rightfully shove alternate software down peoples' throats. You are entitled to your opinion, yes. BUT I *HATE* it when people like you SHOVE  THEIR OPINION down other peoples' throats. "You don't like what I like and so, you are wrong".

Security has improved in IE7 and it *IS* more secure than Firefox, but obviously, you wouldn't know seeing as you use a product from Microsoft with such a biased attitude, it "fails" in your mind, immediately.

All of you out there who merely support firefox and nothing else:
Your arguments are void as the research that was obviously not done is incorrect making your argument irrelevant. Big corporations *can* move from different versions of Windows quite easily, it's called Volume Licensing. Big corporations have no problem with such a "job" as if they run into problems, they get professional, ENTERPRISE LEVEL support. Something Mozilla would not be giving out.

Use your browser of choice and go away. Let users who are yet to experience IE7 not be influenced by your obviously biased opinion.
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Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Dane on 07-28-2005 at 03:14 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by guanako on 07-28-2005 at 03:21 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by mwe99 on 07-28-2005 at 03:26 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Dane on 07-28-2005 at 03:27 AM
RE: RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by guanako on 07-28-2005 at 03:27 AM
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RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by NiteMare on 07-28-2005 at 03:30 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by mwe99 on 07-28-2005 at 03:31 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Hank on 07-28-2005 at 03:35 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by NiteMare on 07-28-2005 at 03:47 AM
RE: RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by guanako on 07-28-2005 at 03:49 AM
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RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Pyroteq on 07-28-2005 at 08:19 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Dane on 07-28-2005 at 08:32 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Ahmad on 07-28-2005 at 09:09 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Hank on 07-28-2005 at 09:12 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Max on 07-28-2005 at 09:17 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by RaPLeX on 07-28-2005 at 09:31 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Max on 07-28-2005 at 09:32 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by TheGeek on 07-28-2005 at 10:34 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Hank on 07-28-2005 at 10:49 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Svip on 07-28-2005 at 10:54 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by emit on 07-28-2005 at 10:57 AM
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RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Hank on 07-29-2005 at 12:59 AM
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RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by -dt- on 07-29-2005 at 04:19 AM
RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by Hank on 07-29-2005 at 05:25 AM
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RE: Internet Explorer 7: First Impressions? - by auhsor on 07-30-2005 at 02:17 AM
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