What happened to the Messenger Plus! forums on msghelp.net?
Shoutbox » MsgHelp Archive » Skype & Technology » Tech Talk » Digg?

Digg?
Author: Message:
Verte
Full Member
***

Avatar

Posts: 272
Reputation: 7
Joined: Apr 2007
RE: RE: Digg?
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
But, the whole discussion and 'state of mind' that people have isn't about 1 rare copy protection which only is used in Germany. People have something against all copy protections, and I'm very sure that 99,99% of all people complaining don't even know about the details of copy protections or even don't know the different methods. People just complain because they think they have every right to do what they want with the DVD/CD, they complain about copy protections in general, heck on everything which prevents them to make copies of which they do not have a right to make them.

I'm pretty sure some copying is considered fair use, or at least it was, and in that sense can't be illegal. However, in order to invoke fair use, you now need to bypass copy protections, which is illegal. So clearly, the US government has enacted a law to to assure you a right, and then taken it away. Copy protection doesn't solve the problem of piracy in any way, in fact, it will never work. It is simply a violation of a right, presumably, as a toe-in-the-water for further violations. The Right Thing to do would be to simply sue people who violate copyright, but lets face it, considering the MAFIAA's continuous failure to gather any real evidence, I guess lobbying for copyright reform was the easier and cheaper way to go.

You're right on the money [lol] where you mention the rights that people think they get. On a regular DVD box, the DVD logo implies that the media should be viewable on something that conforms to the DVD Video standards. With the next generation optical media disks, weather it works is not just dependent on a standard, but upon licensing. The people who made your HD-DVD player [or maybe, you] need to keep the licensing fees up in order to keep your device keys active. It's a whole new level of extortion. They can't assure you that in purchasing the media and a device, you can view the resulting content, because they can terminate the license and mark your key at any time.

What is most alarming is that there is no independent regulatory body. Well, the AACS are the single body administering everything, but they represent a corporate conglomerate, which is to say, they have a CLEAR conflict of interest. That this did not create problems for Phillips [? CD] is probably a moot point, since Phillips don't have a record [lol, the bad puns just keep rolling].

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
It is like that whole "Microsoft sucks" thing. The extremely vast majority of kiddies who say it don't even have a clue why they say it, they just do it because it is considered 'cool'.
...
The point is that all this yelling upon those companies is in almost all cases not grounded on anything at all and is just a thing from this time...


The vast majority of people who point fingers at Microsoft have no idea what they are talking about, but that does not imply that what they are saying is wrong. This is definitely the misinformation age, and it's harder than ever to fight your way through the drivel of people with their own interests, <OS of choice> zealots and their 1337-points interest included. Unless you're willing to look deeper into allegations and not simply stop when one thing doesn't fit, you're taking the route of apathetic ignorance, and that's not something we should be encouraging.
was put impeccably into words at DebianDay for me last Saturday, by Knut Yrvin of Trolltech - adults try something once, fail, and then are like "ffs this doesn't work". Children try, fail, and then try again, and succeed - maybe on the second, or even fifth retry. But the thing is that they keep at it and overcome the problems in the end.

-andrewdodd13
05-07-2007 05:54 PM
Profile E-Mail PM Find Quote Report
« Next Oldest Return to Top Next Newest »

Messages In This Thread
Digg? - by ipab on 05-02-2007 at 05:16 AM
RE: Digg? - by Vilkku on 05-02-2007 at 05:49 AM
RE: Digg? - by ipab on 05-02-2007 at 05:53 AM
RE: Digg? - by WDZ on 05-02-2007 at 06:02 AM
RE: Digg? - by Menthix on 05-02-2007 at 12:43 PM
RE: Digg? - by linx05 on 05-02-2007 at 02:24 PM
RE: Digg? - by Joe on 05-02-2007 at 02:43 PM
RE: Digg? - by linx05 on 05-02-2007 at 03:14 PM
RE: Digg? - by absorbation on 05-02-2007 at 05:19 PM
RE: Digg? - by Verte on 05-03-2007 at 03:05 PM
RE: Digg? - by CookieRevised on 05-03-2007 at 03:38 PM
RE: RE: Digg? - by Verte on 05-03-2007 at 04:02 PM
RE: Digg? - by Dr4g0n on 05-03-2007 at 04:29 PM
RE: Digg? - by CookieRevised on 05-03-2007 at 10:38 PM
RE: Digg? - by linx05 on 05-05-2007 at 09:03 AM
RE: Digg? - by CookieRevised on 05-05-2007 at 10:26 AM
RE: Digg? - by Jhrono on 05-05-2007 at 10:30 AM
RE: Digg? - by Verte on 05-05-2007 at 03:18 PM
RE: Digg? - by L. Coyote on 05-05-2007 at 03:46 PM
RE: Digg? - by absorbation on 05-05-2007 at 04:20 PM
RE: Digg? - by linx05 on 05-06-2007 at 09:43 AM
RE: RE: Digg? - by CookieRevised on 05-06-2007 at 01:20 PM
RE: Digg? - by Volv on 05-06-2007 at 01:23 PM
RE: Digg? - by CookieRevised on 05-06-2007 at 01:34 PM
RE: Digg? - by Verte on 05-06-2007 at 03:33 PM
RE: Digg? - by linx05 on 05-07-2007 at 06:49 AM
RE: Digg? - by CookieRevised on 05-07-2007 at 08:37 AM
RE: Digg? - by linx05 on 05-07-2007 at 11:30 AM
RE: Digg? - by John Anderton on 05-07-2007 at 11:41 AM
RE: Digg? - by Underlord on 05-07-2007 at 11:43 AM
RE: RE: Digg? - by Verte on 05-07-2007 at 05:54 PM
RE: RE: RE: Digg? - by CookieRevised on 05-07-2007 at 08:05 PM
RE: RE: RE: RE: Digg? - by linx05 on 05-09-2007 at 02:33 PM
RE: Digg? - by Dr4g0n on 05-07-2007 at 08:16 PM
RE: Digg? - by Underlord on 05-09-2007 at 11:44 PM
RE: Digg? - by ShawnZ on 05-10-2007 at 12:52 AM


Threaded Mode | Linear Mode
View a Printable Version
Send this Thread to a Friend
Subscribe | Add to Favorites
Rate This Thread:

Forum Jump:

Forum Rules:
You cannot post new threads
You cannot post replies
You cannot post attachments
You can edit your posts
HTML is Off
myCode is On
Smilies are On
[img] Code is On