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Some "respect" reflexions inspired by Chrono
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O.P. RE: Some "respect" reflexions inspired by Chrono
Hi Chrono,

Thanks for your feedback which is the first step to find a way to solve this huge issue.
I globally agree with the analysis you make, but I have to quibble on points of your overall analysis.

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Originally posted by Chrono
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Originally posted by Giulia
Is there any solution to start taking the path to solve this problem ?
yes, you should start by posting this same message in whatever private forums you have in your community :P. This is not the kind of problem that should be known by everyone in a community, but you do need to tell the other members of the staff how you feel in order to solve the problem. Either that or leave the forums for your own sake.
I obviously agree in the theory for this solution.
But in practice, I have to express my own reservations, or in a less harsh word, some concerns about this solution. Actually, I know quite well this community (we have organized real life pic-nics for quite a few years, I have become friend in the real life with some members), and now, there is an important hard core regular members, especially in the two forums which deal with psychiatry (they are two, one is general and the other is specialised on schizophrenia). The staff forum has been stable for years, so I have learnt during these years to know their behaviour and reactions.
It's not like a computer tech help, which many members will post once or twice to ask some help to manage a computer. I don't say that there is not any member like that in the community I moderate, I just say that the number is much less important.
And by the time I interacted with the staff (admins and mods), I had the time to learn about them. So I didn't make my opinion from only one or two messages from them, but on a 1000 messages, even more (I moderate since February 2005, but I am a registered member since 2002-2003).
And the administrator-responsible has become more and more dishonest with the time. Same thing with the other staff members. As I said in my first message in this topic, he permits himself to insult publicly a regular member, whereas it's totally forbidden by French law and penally reprehensible.

Moreover, and to finish with this point, I have already discussed this problem in the Admins/mods forum (invisible for regular members). Not only it has purposed no solution to solve this issue, but moreover, the administrator-legal responsible of this community (I add the « legal responsible » with « administrator », because a person can be an administrator without being legally responsible of the forum, and I judge important to mark the difference) uses my condition (ie. ADHD) to make an hypothesis of diagnosis for psychosis because I asked answer about the forum moderation (the administrator-responsible is a General Practitionner). This hypothesis of diagnosis is completely contrary to the forum rules and to the ethics and deontology about online health, since no diagnosis (which implies hypothesis of diagnosis from a doctor) is allowed on the board (this rule comes from the French Medical Order, I have some hard time to translate the terme « Ordre des Médecins » from French into English. In two words, it's the official professional order which regulate the medicine exercise in France. More informations are available on the official website of the National organ of the French Medical Order the site is unfortunately available in French, there is no foreign language version (it would be super if there were an English version available, even if it represents only a tiny part of the available informations on the site).


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Originally posted by Chrono
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Originally posted by Giulia
Am I asking too much from myself and from the others ?
It's sometimes hard to understand for regular members why people take these matters in such a personal way. But it's true that when you've been part of the community/staff for a long time (7 years in my case), you start to feel like this is an online "family" . And you expect it to be a great place where to spend/waste your time, even when you have almost no free time, like me :P. You should've realized by now, though, that that's just YOUR way to see through things. There may be others who dont really care about the place, they just want a place where to show up once in a while (and that's not a bad thing at all, most members will feel that way).

i think you're expecting too much from them. You said other members of the staff treat you bad. Well, go and ask them if they have a problem with something you've been doing. Asking directly is the easiest way to solve this kind of issues. Oh and btw, you should NEVER take what people say on the internet too seriously. The fact that you are having health problems due to those forums makes me think that you should either quit the community or learn that what they tell you on the internet is just that: words from people that dont really know you and that shouldn't be affecting your'real' life.
As I have told in the first point, this solution has been taken into action (it means I have done it), without any kind of result :( (see my long analysis of the first point).

The sentiment you are describing in your analysis, I used to feel it. Now, not any more : I can't accept being treated like that, in the contempt of any law and ethic which rules the medical profession (I must make remember that the admin-responsible is a GP (General Practitionner), and provides this board to promote information and advice about health in the whole sens).

Moreover, the problem shall be taken from another part.
In fact, if a regular member were harassing me, I would have informed a staff member and I would let decide what shall do. If it were just a regular member which hated me because of this or that, it wouldn't have affected me so much.
The problem is much more serious than just a nasty person who wants only to bug me because of a trivial aspect of the moderation.
Here, the other staff members are treating me without any respect. The problem is so serious that it violates any law and official regulation. If it weren't me, it will  be someone else (it has been already someone else, other regular members have been treated worse than dogs on this board).
So I can't let things run like that. It's not fair, neither for me nor for anyone else.

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Originally posted by Chrono
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Originally posted by Giulia
Am I right to feel tired and disgusted with all these troubles, at the point to start damaging my own physical and mental health ?
As i already said, you shouldnt let something that happened on the internet hurt you. Learn the difference between the real world and the online world. People online are usually more rude, which doesnt necessarily mean they dont like you. Again, go and ask them directly about it.
Again, already done it and no solution has been found, the problem has been even worse ! So I have to find other solutions to manage this problem.



Thanks again for your analysis, it makes me move on to find a solution to solve this issue. And sorry again for this terribly long post, but it needs to be carefully analysed if we want to get out from it....
Giulia ;)
06-22-2009 02:05 AM
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Some "respect" reflexions inspired by Chrono - by Giulia on 06-21-2009 at 11:51 PM
RE: Some "respect" reflexions inspired by Chrono - by Chrono on 06-22-2009 at 12:26 AM
RE: Some "respect" reflexions inspired by Chrono - by Giulia on 06-22-2009 at 02:05 AM
RE: Some "respect" reflexions inspired by Chrono - by Giulia on 06-22-2009 at 04:10 PM


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