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RE: Intel Chipsets
Or use a thrid part program like SiSoft Sandra or CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php) which should tell you what motherboard you have.
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RE: Intel Chipsets
erm... hes already tried Everest, and if it does't say it in there it won't say in cpuz or SiSoft
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hmm im waiting on CookieRevised answer, i sent him an email that he wanted me to send..so im kinda waiting and trying to figure out if i have Directx 9c or Directx v6.0 .. cuz everest says i have v6 and dxdiag says i have v9 i dont know..
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RE: Intel Chipsets
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chris boulton, please try to keep up with the convo
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that motherboard code isn't going to help
can you look for a serial number or brand id or something
erm, try to keep up yourself ;), this is already asked and SikStyles is (was) checking it...

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actually, if you reboot the computer, and pause it on the post screen it should tell you what model mobo it is!!!!
often but not always on all types of mobo and with all biosses...

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Now, SikStyles,

First of all, mind you that there are almost always 2 seperate things to consider! Firstly, what is your motherboard/graphics card/etc capable of supporting. This is know as hardware support. Then there are software drivers which could support also several things and often support higher versions of the ons you find on the hardware devices.

But, a hardware device supporting a specific version is much better then a software supporting the same version. Software support means the software drivers need to emulate the stuff and thus uses lots of resources, speed, memory, cpu power, etc. Hardware supported versions are thus much faster en resource efficient (it isn't your CPU that needs to do the calculation, but the hardware chips themselfs; your CPU isn't used in that case)

For you this means that your hardware supports DirectX 6.x. But the graphic drivers you have support DirectX 8.x. Thus... if, for example, a game uses only DirectX 5.0, your graphical processor does all the work. If a game requires DirectX 8.0, your software drivers come into action and do the supporting (but of course, this is much much slower and CPU intensive).

The DirectX 9.0 comes from the DirectX software itself and doesn't nessecairly mean you can run in DirectX Video 9.0 mode. This is only when your drivers support it also or when drivers aren't needed; Remember that DirectX is only a name for a whole array of software support: you have "DirectX Sound", "DirectX Video", etc. So it is quite possible that your sound drivers do support DirectX 9.0 (only your graphic drivers don't)...

This same story goes for your graphical memory also (you once asked this question on the forum). Your integrated graphics have only 4MB of memory on board (this means locally inside the graphic chip so to speak), but it can use up to 32MB of your system memory (this means non-locally, thus from your total computer memory).

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Now, some of your specs:

Motherboard: Asus TUW-LA rev.1 (ASUSTeK Computer)
Motherboard Chipset: Intel Whitney i810E (03/13/2002-I810E-TUW-LA)

BIOS Type: Award Medallion 3.05 (03/13/02)

Video Adapter: Intel 82810E GMCH Graphics Controller (32 MB)
3D Accelerator: Intel i752
GPU Code Name: Intel i752 (Integrated 8086 / 7125, Rev 03)
Available Local Video Memory: 4096 KB
Available Non-Local Video Memory (AGP): 32768 KB

Installed Graphics Driver in Windows: i81xdnt5 (id 6.13.01.3198)
6 => Windows 2000 and Windows XP
13 => DirectX 8.x support
01 => ?
3198 => build number


Your integrated graphics adapter isn't supported anymore. This means no updates for drivers anymore or anything. But older drivers can still be downloaded from here.
Important note: you have a custom build driver from HP based upon the latest version already, so you don't need an update!

But, your integrated graphics adapter doesn't support many modes/instructions which modern games require!
eg: 32-bit Rendering is not supported. Hardware Transform & Lighting is not supported, etc. And it seems that OpenGL isn't supported either (although I'm not sure of it; but even the fact that this is questionable is a reason to believe it isn't supported fully at the least)

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My suggestion, buy a cheap but decent and up-to-date AGP graphics card...
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well thank you for this long explanation..i get it now but 2 things

1)I was able to play the game with Windows XP Home Edition and with 128mb ram and same processor, but i had an old HDD..now after the old HDD friend i got +256mb of ram and a better HDD and Windows XP pro.. how come was i able to play ( very hard on the eyes btw) with basically crappier system and now with a better system i cant

2) i cant buy an AGP grapics card because i dont have AGP slots ... i think ...
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1)I was able to play the game with Windows XP Home Edition and with 128mb ram and same processor, but i had an old HDD..now after the old HDD friend i got +256mb of ram and a better HDD and Windows XP pro.. how come was i able to play ( very hard on the eyes btw) with basically crappier system and now with a better system i cant
Make sure all your settings are correct! Aswell as in the BIOS (for the HDD and memory) as in Windows XP Pro (for compatibily stuff)..

Also, I noticed you have two different types of DIMM memory modules. This should (edit:) NOT be a problem, but it could be a problem though...

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2) i cant buy an AGP grapics card because i dont have AGP slots ... i think ...
I meant buy an external one, AGP, PCI, VESA (do they still make those :P), whatever...

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Also, I noticed you have two different types of DIMM memory modules. This should be a problem, but it could be a problem though...

how can i disable one or whatever?

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Make sure all your settings are correct! Aswell as in the BIOS (for the HDD and memory) as in Windows XP Pro (for compatibily stuff)

how wud i know if my settings are correct?
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RE: Intel Chipsets
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What "thing", what "utility"???? please read posts carefully (much has been said and suggested already) and be as clear as possible yourself. And only post when you know what you're talking about..
I am talking about ...
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That utility.
"Intel Chipset Identification Utility"
EDIT: I found it on google.
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My suggestion, buy a cheap but decent and up-to-date AGP graphics card...
I dont have an AGP slot. Only PCI slots and PCI cards are costlier :-/

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hmm i guess me and John are on the same boat..appearantly a shitty one ..

Umm John what version did u use for that utility and did it detect everything?

and if u can tell me what is ur BIOS version
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hmm i guess me and John are on the same boat..appearantly a shitty one ..
True :P Just like we talked on msn
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Umm John what version did u use for that utility and did it detect everything?
The 3.05 one doesnt detect for me but the 2.91 does and it shows everything correctly :)
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and if u can tell me what is ur BIOS version
Err .... i dunno :$ How do i see it ??
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