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RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views?
Im Turkish,so we are muslim.Also my mom or any women in my family not wearing a veil or anything like that.

Its just religion,everyone liberty about it[in Turkey].

P.S. =M.K. Ataturk forbad the wear a veils on 25 November 1925.
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10-06-2006 08:46 PM
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Everyone has a right to wear what the hell you want. At the end of the day it's part of a religion. Wearing a Christian cross isn't banned, that's showing the religion. Wearing a veil is just a Muslim way of showing their religion.


This annoys me. *flies away*
a cross is not blocking/hiding the whole face, also... liek bluewater, you cant wear a hood... bt you can wear a full on face mask basically.

why does showing their religion have to be in the form of hiding their identity. you said a christian wears a cross... (im not pro that either...) but it doesn't hide their face, or make things awkward

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10-06-2006 09:00 PM
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Everyone has a right to wear what the hell you want. At the end of the day it's part of a religion. Wearing a Christian cross isn't banned, that's showing the religion. Wearing a veil is just a Muslim way of showing their religion.


This annoys me. *flies away*
a cross is not blocking/hiding the whole face, also... liek bluewater, you cant wear a hood... bt you can wear a full on face mask basically.

why does showing their religion have to be in the form of hiding their identity. you said a christian wears a cross... (im not pro that either...) but it doesn't hide their face, or make things awkward


It's not to hide their identity, although it might seem that way to you. They feel 'protected' from the eyes of men. It makes them feel safer. And it's their religion. What harm does it cause anyway? Policemen where police hats so you can't see the expression of their eyes/eyebrows... it comes under the same thing.
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It's not to hide their identity, although it might seem that way to you. They feel 'protected' from the eyes of men. It makes them feel safer. And it's their religion. What harm does it cause anyway? Policemen where police hats so you can't see the expression of their eyes/eyebrows... it comes under the same thing.
i beg to differ, the policemen and women around here i can recognise... if they all wore hijabs im pretty sure i wouldn't be able to tell who is who.

im not sayign they should give up their religion or anything, i just feel its a that this is true:
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full-face veil is a "visible statement of separation".

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RE: RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views?
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It's not to hide their identity, although it might seem that way to you. They feel 'protected' from the eyes of men. It makes them feel safer. And it's their religion. What harm does it cause anyway? Policemen where police hats so you can't see the expression of their eyes/eyebrows... it comes under the same thing.
i beg to differ, the policemen and women around here i can recognise... if they all wore hijabs im pretty sure i wouldn't be able to tell who is who.

im not sayign they should give up their religion or anything, i just feel its a that this is true:
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full-face veil is a "visible statement of separation".



Statement of separation. Right, so who's it hurting anyhow? No one. It's a piece of clothing.

What about people in the winter, wearing their scarves around their nose/mouth + neck, with a hood up...

IMO I think it's ridiculous and plain ignorance.
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im not tryna cause any kind of argument btw. just trying to debate how i see things. this is interesting. i've been reading the comment on bbc news aswell....

ok its not hruting anyone but what about all the things like your not allowed to have a st georges flag unless it is on a verticle flag pole because it is offensive.... thats rubbish thats not hurting anyone.

people will take a scarf off when they are not plodding around outside.... or if they dont have heating. they are not going to sit in a conference with it on.

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RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views?
i just don't see the point of them, they're not exactly fashionable or anything, and don't serve much purpose...
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i just don't see the point of them, they're not exactly fashionable or anything, and don't serve much purpose...


Yeah, it's religious and started in Iran and such, they're good for the weather they have. They're breezy, light and protect you from the sun.
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Yeah, it's religious and started in Iran and such, they're good for the weather they have. They're breezy, light and protect you from the sun.
not sandy in england, and not sunny either lol ^_^

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RE: RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views?
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Yeah, it's religious and started in Iran and such, they're good for the weather they have. They're breezy, light and protect you from the sun.
not sandy in england, and not sunny either lol ^_^


It's religious. I was just explaining that they're 'unfashionable' because they're more practical that fashionable. But yes, the designs stuck like that.
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