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Looking for opinions on this for a research paper due in Feb .


I don't think there should be a specific date; I think it should happen now. We're loosing our soldiers, billions of taxpayer’s dollars, and support from other countries. We should have been out of there years ago. The U.S. is acting like a communist country right now, and I can't stand it. President Bush is pushing our style of government on countries that have lived with tyrants/communists/extremists (SP?). We shouldn't force a country to have a democracy, especially when the people don't want it, point blank. Finding and killing Osama is going to gain what? A victory? It's not going to change a thing: there's always going to be terrorists. The U.S. needs to be focusing on getting our economy back on track. We're on the verge of a recession that is expected to last years (According to economy annalists on CNN).

So my vote is for yes. I hope our next president can get us out of this mess.

Should there be a specific date/deadline that the U.S. should set to bring the troops back home?

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Originally posted by RebelSean
I don't think there should be a specific date;

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I don't know why the f***  USA is in Iraq. They think they can govern the whole world...

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Originally posted by Chancer

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Originally posted by RebelSean
I don't think there should be a specific date;

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I don't know why the f***  USA is in Iraq. They think they can govern the whole world...

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When the war first started, it was backed by the nation's people. I supported it in hopes that the terrorists who attacked our country were found so it didn't happen again. We shouldn't have forced their government out, because the Iraqi people supported it.

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Originally posted by RebelSean
it was backed by the nation's people.

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can you guess why it was backed by the nation's people? wouldn't it be nice if some disaster occurred just before the war started that bush could blame on terrorism? because, you know, it seems like that could only bring good to the bush administration!

on a completely unrelated note, remember 9/11?

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Originally posted by RebelSean
he U.S. is acting like a communist country right now, and I can't stand it.

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You couldn't be any more American

I'll post my views a little later, bit tired and too busy for in depth thought atm.

this thread is only going to end in tears.

it's a subject on which there's bound to be many different viewpoints, none of which are necessarily right or wrong.

there are endless arguments both for and against any troops being anywhere

threads like this always just end in bans......the comments are already starting to get a little out of hand

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Originally posted by RebelSean
The U.S. is acting like a communist country right now, and I can't stand it.

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Thank god for living in a nation where communism never existed. You have no idea what it is.

haha, fuck them up more than they already were and abandon them? nah, now they need to stay and fix it up.

I think the lesson from Iraq for everyone -- including the Bush administration -- is that before you decide to invade a country and depose a government that works, you should consider where you are going to find a replacement.  Really, what we've seen is that Iraq is medieval enough it takes a citizen-gassing dictator to keep it from turning into complete chaos.  We deposed that dictator and now we have a chaos.

I couldn't agree more that United States never should have messed with Iraq, but it is also obvious it would be totally irresponsible to walk away from it now.  This is one mistake that U.S. will have to keep paying for -- in blood and dollars -- until it can hand Iraq over to something resembling a stable government.  You can thank Dubya for starting this disaster, but remember two wrongs don't make a right.

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Originally posted by Jhrono
Thank god for living in a nation where communism never existed. You have no idea what it is.

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Do you?  I had no idea Portugal was a communist state at any point in time.

Strictly speaking, communism has never been fully implemented anywhere.  Virtually all the regimes throughout the history that we refer to as communist are actually not and are some variation on socialism.  Secondary characteristics, such as authoritarianism, are not necessarily a consequence of communism or socialism per se, but rather a consequence of how these regimes came to be -- so I think the term is tossed around in these forums without true understanding of what it means.

As much as I was against the war in the first place, even I wouldn't stand down from the 9/11 disaster. Something had to be done, but we can't protect our borders all the time to be honest...

To the matter at hand, even though it may have been a mistake about the war in the first place, there is no turning back now. Matter of fact, no matter how terrible this may sound coming from an American, (born and raised in Texas), I am fully against troop withdrawal. Far as I know, the US as a nation is suppose to be a strong nation that came up from nothing at all when the pilgrims first landed. The Democrats want the troops out to prevent death, but the way I see it, it's just going to portray the US as a weak nation, withdrawing from a war is sometimes not a good thing.

That's my take on it anyway, I'm just against it because I don't like to see the US as a weak nation after 400 years of what progress it has become to today's standards.