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The latest panic of the internet: UNIX system's crash in the year 2038. Lets hope there's an update.


Well for all 32 bit UNIX systems that are not updated. (meaning not just computers that are UNIX but web-servers too) can crash in the year 2038. A bug in UNIX type operating systems causes the system to fail after the year 2038. The problem is  processing the time and after January 19th 2038 UNIX systems cannot accept the time change. It's the 2038 super bug.

After the Y2K bug that didn't really effect any major web-servers can this be the successor that will kill the internet?

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While no significant computer failures occurred when the clocks rolled over into 2000, preparation for the Y2K bug had a significant effect on the computer industry. The fact that countries where very little was spent on tackling the Y2K bug (like Italy and Korea) fared just as well as those who spent a lot (like the UK and the US) has generated debate on whether the absence of computer failures was the result of the preparation undertaken or whether the significance of the problem had been overstated.


There's actually a lot of machines that can go wrong and can't be replaced.

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By 2038, it's likely that many of the susceptible machines will have been decommissioned before the critical date occurs. However, legacy systems and embedded systems could still be affected. These may include process control computers, space probe computers, embedded systems in traffic light controllers, navigation systems, routers, gas pumps, etc. It may not be possible to upgrade many of these systems, so they will need to be replaced.


I'm gonna get a UNIX system and change the time to just before that event i'll post back!

Article: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_internet...nd_in_30_years.php

What's your opinion about this?

This post was edited on 03-20-2008 at 06:28 PM by Quantum.
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RE: Will the internet Die in 30 years?
lol indeed I can't set the date to anything after 2038

but I'm sure 'they' will have found a way to solve this by then.
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RE: Will the internet Die in 30 years?
UNIX may not even be around by then. When I think of the end of the Internet I think of it being controlled or an over burst in data. If YouTube start delivering HD video content there may be huge repercussions :P.
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RE: Will the internet Die in 30 years?
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The latest panic of the internet: UNIX system's crash in the year 2038
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but I'm sure 'they' will have found a way to solve this by then.
I agree. :p
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The latest panic of the internet: UNIX system's crash in the year 2038
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but I'm sure 'they' will have found a way to solve this by then.
I agree. :p

I was being sarcastic :P :lol:
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RE: Will the internet Die in 30 years?
As far as I'm aware, there are only two options for 'them' to fix it. Either there is a replacement for the current POSIX time (which I doubt, since there would then be trouble with cross-compatibility), or 64-bit integers are used for the time instead of 32-bit (which is impossible for 32-bit systems).
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RE: Will the internet Die in 30 years?
I just set my time to 4:13:55 on that date (CET, so it's 1 hour out)
this is the result ;)
[Image: attachment.php?pid=896284]

linux' timemachine > apple's :O:O:O


edit: it didn't crash though...

.png File Attachment: time.png (1.19 KB)
This file has been downloaded 440 time(s).

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RE: Will the internet Die in 30 years?
In all honesty, who would really be expecting to use a 32-bit PC in 2038?
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I just set my time to 4:13:55 on that date (CET, so it's 1 hour out)
this is the result ;)
[Image: attachment.php?pid=896284]

linux' timemachine > apple's :O:O:O

Just out of curiosity what OS are you using?
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RE: Will the internet Die in 30 years?
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Just out of curiosity what OS are you using?
I ran that test on Gentoo Linux 2.6.23-r8
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