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| .blade// Veteran Member
 
      
 
  
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 | | O.P.  I,ROBOT (Just a little off-topic, side not, I haven't been on much bcz I am house sitting for ppl with no internet   )
 
Well I saw I,ROBOT on friday, and I thought it was generally a good movie (I will buy it, along with Spiderman 2 and Van Helsing when they come out on DVD   ) but it got me to wondering 2 questions:
 First off, what did you think of the movie/the movie's effects (it was shot in Vancouver Canada  I am only like 4 hours away  ) 
 
Second, and this one is more technical - do you think it is possible to have robots with fealings, dreams, and a form of consiousness within 20-30 years and be affordable enough for a middle class person can afford one? I don't just mean a stupid machine that responds to your requests via pre-programmed questions, I mean robots that can decide things on their own, and live among us, perhaps eventually esculating to something like what happened on the matrix (I don't mean the virtual world, I just mean machines eventually taking over after being oppressed for so long.
 
Just a little bit of information to help you with your answer(s):
 The HONDA ACIMO robot can walk, move, and decifer its enviroment, and has the general shape of a humanYou can already purchase one for ~1.5 million USD
  The info page is at: http://world.honda.com/ASIMO/
 Current model, ASIMO V2:
 
 ![[Image: img_01.jpg]](http://world.honda.com/ASIMO/image/top/img_01.jpg)  ![[Image: btn_asimo.jpg]](http://world.honda.com/ASIMO/P3/image/top/btn_asimo.jpg) 
 And here's the old model, P3 (Prototype 3):
 ![[Image: img_03.jpg]](http://world.honda.com/ASIMO/P3/image/top/img_03.jpg) 
There is an experimental robot that currently can respond to your tone of voice with facial expressions and indeciferable gibberish (which will hopefully eventually be words)
An experimental robot, currently in progress, can respond to what you say using complex algorithims. It currently can respond to about 1/4 of what you say with an individual answer (not just a simple yes/no)
 
(Upon googling I found this artical about conscious robot:
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Papers/Py104/dennett.rob.html  )This post was edited on 07-20-2004 at 12:16 AM by .blade//.
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| 07-19-2004 11:46 PM |  | 
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| Maniac Senior Member
 
     
 
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 | | RE: I,ROBOT I saw trailers of the movie, and it looks pwitty good, so i will probably see it in the following days .... 
As for your second question, yeah i think REAL AI will be discovered at some point, but i don't believe it will be in our life time. Maybe the day before we die someone will have a REALLY sophisticated robot, but i don't think we will have robots that actually "live" for quite a looooooooooooooooooong time  ![[Image: maniacsig0pb.jpg]](http://img272.echo.cx/img272/6024/maniacsig0pb.jpg) 
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| 07-20-2004 02:48 AM |  | 
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| Guido Elite Member
 
      
 
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 | | RE: I,ROBOT quote:Originally posted by Ningc_Maniac
 yeah i think REAL AI will be discovered at some point
 
 AI is not something you can really "discover". You just have to code it. And it's hard   | 
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| 07-20-2004 03:39 AM |  | 
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| Pyroteq Veteran Member
 
      
 
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 | | RE: I,ROBOT Ive seen the trailers too it looks pretty good and its got a OCC (Orange County Choppers) aka American Chopper bike in it..this one-  ![[Image: irobot_ani.gif]](http://www.orangecountychoppers.com/headerpics/irobot_ani.gif)  
Theres no better pictures so its most likely a custom bike but upon closer inspection is probly similar to this one- 
 ![[Image: bike1_ex.jpg]](http://www.orangecountychoppers.com/allbikes/gallery/bike1_ex.jpg)  
but ill know for sure once ive seen the movie which i intend to do pretty soon.This post was edited on 07-20-2004 at 06:32 AM by Pyroteq.
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| 07-20-2004 06:29 AM |  | 
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| lizard.boy Veteran Member
 
      
 
  
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 | | RE: I,ROBOT quote:Originally posted by Scone
 Theres no better pictures so its most likely a custom bike
 
 If it came out of occ what do you think it is? | 
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| 07-20-2004 05:49 PM |  | 
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 | | O.P.  RE: I,ROBOT quote:Originally posted by Scone
 Ive seen the trailers too it looks pretty good and its got a OCC (Orange County Choppers) aka American Chopper bike in it..this one-
 
 
 ![[Image: irobot_ani.gif]](http://www.orangecountychoppers.com/headerpics/irobot_ani.gif) 
 Theres no better pictures so its most likely a custom bike but upon closer inspection is probly similar to this one-
 
 
 ![[Image: bike1_ex.jpg]](http://www.orangecountychoppers.com/allbikes/gallery/bike1_ex.jpg) 
 
   That's awesome, but I never saw it    
There was also this kick-ass AUDI custom (  ):
 ![[Image: audirsq04_01.jpg]](http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/01/audirsq04_01.jpg)  
(more pic.s and info at http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/audi_rsq.asp  )
 quote:Originally posted by Ningc_Maniac
 I saw trailers of the movie, and it looks pwitty good, so i will probably see it in the following days ....
 
 As for your second question, yeah i think REAL AI will be discovered at some point, but i don't believe it will be in our life time. Maybe the day before we die someone will have a REALLY sophisticated robot, but i don't think we will have robots that actually "live" for quite a looooooooooooooooooong time
  
 
I don't think it's so far off (though it won't be "discovered"    it will be made, hence ARTIFICIAL  intelligence.
 
I reccomend you all see the movie, it was good, I give it ***1/2 out of ****    (3.5 / 4)
 
Edit: One reason I may not have seen that bike is bcz that's the wrong image, that's the "T-REX" bike that you gave a larger image of, the little thumbnail says you have to stop by their retail store to see it  This post was edited on 07-20-2004 at 10:45 PM by .blade//.
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| 07-20-2004 10:35 PM |  | 
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| WDZ Former Admin
 
      
 
  
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 | | RE: I,ROBOT quote:Originally posted by Scone
 Ive seen the trailers too it looks pretty good and its got a OCC (Orange County Choppers) aka American Chopper bike in it..this one-
 
 Uhh... the OCC bike isn't IN the movie...    They made it for Will Smith and unveiled it at the premiere of the movie.    
Pics: http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/amchopper/photo...irobot/irobot.html | 
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| 07-20-2004 11:48 PM |  | 
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 | | O.P.  RE: I,ROBOT quote:Originally posted by WDZ
 
 quote:Uhh... the OCC bike isn't IN the movie...Originally posted by Scone
 Ive seen the trailers too it looks pretty good and its got a OCC (Orange County Choppers) aka American Chopper bike in it..this one-
 
  They made it for Will Smith and unveiled it at the premiere of the movie.  
 Pics: http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/amchopper/photo...irobot/irobot.html
 
   that is an awesome bike :refucK:
* .blade// wants one. 
It's too bad I missed American Chopper last night    The place I am house sitting only has basic cable, and that doesn't include discovery channel    
and no internet aswell e_eThis post was edited on 07-21-2004 at 12:11 AM by .blade//.
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| 07-20-2004 11:55 PM |  | 
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 | | RE: I,ROBOT   
Well, there are always reruns...
 
Friday, July 23rd, 2004 - 21:00 EST 
Saturday, July 24th, 2004 - 00:00, 15:00 EST | 
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| 07-21-2004 12:03 AM |  | 
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 | | O.P.  RE: I,ROBOT quote:Originally posted by WDZ
 
  
 Well, there are always reruns...
 
 Friday, July 23rd, 2004 - 21:00 EST
 Saturday, July 24th, 2004 - 00:00, 15:00 EST
 
 
Thanks....I'll try to get home on Saturday to watch it
* .blade// hugs his digital cable box   
btw, I had no idea their bikes were so expensive X_X They START  at 45,000 USD...mind you they ARE hand made, but that is a little pricey for a chopper...I'd rather have a street rod for that much   | 
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