Shoutbox

It sucks what happened, but its no different than the hundreds of other times in world history that hunders/thousands of people have died.

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Originally posted by DeathGoth
I do think it was taken down by a controlled Demo

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A controlled demolition takes months of preparation. WTC 7 was occupied by a number of organizations right up until the attack and subsequent evacuation. When were the explosives placed and wired? I doubt a top-secret team of demolition experts entered the building with all their tools and equipment amidst all the smoke, dust, fire, and chaos...

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Originally posted by WDZ
A controlled demolition takes months of preparation. WTC 7 was occupied by a number of organizations right up until the attack and subsequent evacuation. When were the explosives placed and wired? I doubt a top-secret team of demolition experts entered the building with all their tools and equipment amidst all the smoke, dust, fire, and chaos...

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True, and what is the motive for all of this, why would they do this? And with so many people involved, how come there is no one coming forward saying they helped?

We all know the 9/11 conspiracy theories are not really about the building 7.  They are not about proving it was demolished because of safety concerns, after having taken damage by the debris from buildings 1 and 2, and the government just decided to cover that one detail up.  That wouldn't make a very exciting conspiracy, would it?

That is why I think DeathGoth ought to tell us what he thinks really happened and who was behind the whole shebang.  Was it CIA?  Mossad?  Who knew about it in advance?  Why did they do it? 

Come on, don't hold out on us!  You know you want to share!

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Originally posted by DeathGoth
Maximum burning temperature: 980 °C

hmm Steel starts to melt at 1535c

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For the record, the building didn't have 'melt' to colapse - only weaken.

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Originally posted by haydn
For the record, the building didn't have 'melt' to colapse - only weaken.

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True, and besides that... We're not talking just about a clean fuel burn. We're talking about a big plane which went through a big part of the building, surely that already damaged the steel. On top of that there was a huge explosion right after impact which damaged the steel even further. The fuel burn was just a small part of the process.

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Originally posted by DeathGoth
wrong son.

Flash point: 38 °C
Autoignition temperature: over 425 °C
Freezing point: -47 °C (-40 °C for JET A)
Open air burning temperatures: 260-315 °C
Maximum burning temperature: 980 °C

hmm Steel starts to melt at 1535c around 4000f. I guess science is wrong eh?

Lets try again. Ohh and the fire in WTC 1 and 2 for jet fuel is stated that it only burned for about 15 or so seconds. Also the smoke blowing a nice black color showed the fires that were in the towers were starved of clean oxygen to get to a high point. If that were the case we would have seen steel columns in the towers glowing bright orangish in the middle of the day..

So your theory just got crushed.

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You're an idiot. The reason why the structure began to fall down is because the gurders in there began to melt and it just completely made the building unstable. If the plane didn't catch fire, then the building probably wouldn't have fallen down. Think about it, if something hits the top of something then it won't fall down, whereas if something happens to the supports of it (the gurders) then the building will began to move until slowly, but surely it collapses.

If we're outside a tower which is a really high way up, we're not going to see where the plane is exactly, remember that the tower was also filled with smoke from the aircraft crashing, we wouldn't not have seen many of the gurders melting.

The fire also caused parts of the building to catch on fire, so even if the plane did end up "going out" (which I doubt) then the building would still be burning hot.

You're not a specialist, you only have "theories" as to what you're talking about, whereas there are scientists and others out there that are dedicated to studying what happens hand on, and they wouldn't just release information as to why it all happened if it was untrue.

Maybe it was aliens who did it? Idiot.

Elvis is still alive, and so are the twin towers!!

lmao MenthiX

I do think there is something going on behind 9/11. I don't trust the American Government one bit. I am glad I'm not living under that regime.

I am pretty sick and tired of always hearing about it though. I am not ashamed to say I am happy the news reports are getting smaller and smaller each anniversary. Yes, I am sorry for the people who died but we can't keep living in the past. Move on I say (maybe I should take my advice sometimes lol).

Maybe it could have been prevented but what happened is in the past and we should learn from mistakes.