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Originally posted by CookieRevised
    quoteriginally posted by M73A
    Personally i agree with Jack Straw, i would find it rude if someone was wearing one of these veils whilst in a meeting/conference....

what on earth is rude about wearing them???? o.O

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i personally like to see peoples expressions, and their reactions, and can put a face to a voice... like my friends... say my friend is called ben... i relate things to him and think 'what does he look like his anme is? he looks like a ben.. i personally would find it very hard trying to distinguish one veiled person from another...

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
    quoteriginally posted by M73A
    i also agree on the comment that 'wearing the veils seperates muslims from everyone else' (or something along those lines). The veils do not help a multicultural comunity blend and get along.

How do they not help?

If you speak of a 'multicultural community' it means that in this community people are from multiple cultures. If eveybody wears the exact same thing, behaves the same way, say the same thing, etc you don't have a multicultural community at all.

Also, why is it that everybody always talks about veils as if those people are the only people with the only religion which has some visible elements.

If veils are not allowed, so must be crosses, white border from the priest, etc... Heck, ANY other clothing or ornament which has even the slightest reference to some religion or culture (eg: piercing, tattoos, etc...).

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it doesnt help because it doesn't exactely encourage the other cultures to mix with them.... so i don't see it as multicultural... ok many cultures may live in one area.. but if they are all separated (even in school im starting to noticed groups of people... all of the same race)

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
    quoteriginally posted by M73A
    you said a christian wears a cross... (im not pro that either...) but it doesn't hide their face, or make things awkward

They might find christian practices ackward too. If you find something ackward that's your problem, not theirs.

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so much stuff is found to be offensive now days, that one really gets my goat.. like now your now allowed to be patriotic and have a flag displayed... ytf have they got a problem with a flag, if anything i should have the right to be patriotic... if they have a problem with it then thats their problem... but no, id soon have some policemen telling me to take it down or whatever...

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
    quoteriginally posted by M73A
    im not sayign they should give up their religion or anythin

Actually you do say they should give up their religion if you wanna forbid it!

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thats completely not what im trying to say, hey, be islam, but why is the veil required? we have to abide by their dress codes... whats wrong with it being the other way round? the only problem is there is no religious reason to have certain garments banned in the u.k.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
    quoteriginally posted by M73A
    its not just the veil though, its that multiculturalism is becoming harder, and the veil isnt helping muslims blend in.

so you want a multicultural society where everybody wears and does the same? Sorry, but that is not multicultural at all, that's saying "adapt or get away", aka serious discriminating.

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as i said before, some people may find the veils intimidating (just because of the whole terrorism thing always being in the media)... thus making it harder for all of the cultures to interact. ok i dont like the way some other cultures act -little street rats- but thats not what the thread is to discuss....

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
I'm very shocked reading certain comments in this thread

Personally I find it very offensive that people even consider forbidding veils or would even questionning wearing them; it is their believe and they have the right to practice their believe.

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im sorry your offended by the discussion but its definitely a controvertial topic.

not ment to be offensive but upon reading it, it my come across as it: im not part of any religion, i dont believe in any religion either... i just think that people should just be polite to eachother and there would not be any problems.... no religions - no terrorism.

sorry, but thats how my head works... i know its bull**** but thats how my life has made me think. i partly reated this thread because i would like to be more educated about such subjects, but i always come across as having a rant. >.<