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Please select the most appropriate option which expresses your feelings, the poll is anonymous.
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I do not encourage others to install the sponsor. 27 79.41%
I encourage others to install the sponsor if they are at least 18 years of age. 1 2.94%
I encourage others to install the sponsor. 6 17.65%
Total: 34 votes 100%
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Use of the Sponsor program
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O.P. Use of the Sponsor program
As some of you know, and despite what others may think I have been strongly against the used of LOP.COM and similar sponsors being included in freeware programs - such as Plus! regardless of whether it's optional or not. I'm endeavouring to raise this issue in a very respectful way, I mean no disrespect to Patchou, forum administration and moderators, to beta testers, to fellow forum members - or to anyone else (including lurkers etc).

I still strongly feel that if any option should be given it should be given at the time of Download, not at the time of Installation.

I am working on a new section of my website, and partly it will contain anti-adware and anti-wga sections. I know some of you say Patchou deserves to make revenue from Plus! and that Bandwidth costs money - but there are many other options. Firstly he already has advertising on the website itself, secondly if he didn't have the sponsor there would be many file mirrors who would be more than willing to assist him and take that load off of his server. Also, there are many web hosts who would be more than happy to provide domain hosting in exchange for google ads on his pages - and as Patchou HAS the Google ads, AND he pays for hosting he gets to keep all additional revenue.

I know many people may be thinking "who are you to criticize Patchou's use of a sponsor, you do not understand". I can assure you I have made contributions online for a very long time, and I have several scripts (and possibly compiled programs) I will be distributing from my own website - a site with no ads on it, and no PayPal link.

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Here is a fantastic site - with no advertising (except for their sponsor) and all their freeware is clean, and does not ask you to install 3rd party adware. This site has MANY fantastic programs - not just one, and is clear proof there are many other options:

http://sysinternals.com/

And finally Patchou gives you NO OTHER support/donation options aside from the sponsor program, so is enough enough? "DVD Jon" gives his stuff away because he has a passion for defeating propriety software systems. DVD Decrypter - perhaps the most famous product based on Jon's code - was free with no strings attached.

ISP's sometimes give courtesy calls to customers when they notice their customer accounts are sending SPAM. They will often ask not only that online virus-scans are run, but also anti-adware software such as Ad-Aware or SpyBot is run - Patchou's sponsor interferes with this.

It is time to face facts: those who install the sponsor don't want it on their system. This poll should reflect how people feel about the sponsor. The questions have been worded precisely - you'll notice there's not a "I specifically discourage people from installing the sponsor" as it's redundant. If there is anyone here who encourages their friends or family to install Patchou's sponsor - please reply personally and explain why you do. Because they way I see it the question isn't "do we have a clear choice" - but if no one  (or very few people) encourages their friends and family to install the Sponsor - who is Patchou to encourage them to?

At any rate, I believe this needs to be addressed, I look forward to your replies;

Daniel

This post was edited on 11-02-2006 at 01:18 AM by wj.
10-31-2006 09:33 AM
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Messages In This Thread
Use of the Sponsor program - by Meksilon on 10-31-2006 at 09:33 AM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by Puniksem on 10-31-2006 at 10:46 AM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by RaceProUK on 10-31-2006 at 10:45 PM
RE: RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by Meksilon on 11-01-2006 at 12:59 AM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by ins4ne on 10-31-2006 at 10:53 PM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by qgroessl on 11-01-2006 at 04:03 AM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by deAd on 11-01-2006 at 04:55 AM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by L. Coyote on 11-01-2006 at 06:02 AM
RE: RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by Meksilon on 11-01-2006 at 01:31 PM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by absorbation on 11-01-2006 at 04:27 PM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by RaceProUK on 11-01-2006 at 06:59 PM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by CookieRevised on 11-02-2006 at 12:49 AM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by Meksilon on 11-02-2006 at 02:38 AM
RE: RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by CookieRevised on 11-02-2006 at 02:06 PM
RE: RE: RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by LEE123 on 11-03-2006 at 12:17 AM
RE: RE: RE: RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by alexp2_ad on 11-03-2006 at 12:27 AM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by deAd on 11-02-2006 at 02:59 AM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by Fanta on 11-02-2006 at 04:00 AM
RE: RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by Meksilon on 11-02-2006 at 08:45 AM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by Phillip on 11-02-2006 at 12:13 PM
RE: RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by Meksilon on 11-02-2006 at 01:23 PM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by foaly on 11-02-2006 at 12:43 PM
RE: RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by Meksilon on 11-02-2006 at 01:21 PM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by foaly on 11-02-2006 at 01:47 PM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by Anetten on 11-02-2006 at 11:40 PM
RE: Use of the Sponsor program - by user27089 on 11-02-2006 at 11:50 PM


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