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Originally posted by owenw
Well...not technically. So it's based on Firefox? mmm...that would be wrong. It runs on the same engine that firefox runs on to render the web, which is Gecko/20071127 or there abouts...so its not really THAT similar to Firefox.

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er what? it is firefox + a theme + a few options like an option to use the IE rendering engine.
(just like flock is )


http://browser.netscape.com/releasenotes/

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Netscape Navigator 9.0.0.5 is based on Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.11.

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Originally posted by -dt-

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Originally posted by owenw
Well...not technically. So it's based on Firefox? mmm...that would be wrong. It runs on the same engine that firefox runs on to render the web, which is Gecko/20071127 or there abouts...so its not really THAT similar to Firefox.

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er what? it is firefox + a theme + a few options like an option to use the IE rendering engine.
(just like flock is )


http://browser.netscape.com/releasenotes/

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Netscape Navigator 9.0.0.5 is based on Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.11.

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Hmmmmmmm....FF also has these things tho...so why not just use ff, geez! lol, You can get an IE tab with a plugin. I believe thats the same method this new netscape uses.

Anyone have any idea if it can render all sorts of pages properly? such as gmail, and Windows Live hotmail?

Also, didnt they get bought out by AOL now?

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Originally posted by owenw
Hmmmmmmm....FF also has these things tho...so why not just use ff, geez! lol, You can get an IE tab with a plugin. I believe thats the same method this new netscape uses.

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No, it isn't just a jacket around FF. It is a rewrite, done by a dedicated in-house set of developpers.

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Originally posted by owenw
Anyone have any idea if it can render all sorts of pages properly? such as gmail, and Windows Live hotmail?

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Those show without any problem, even in Netscape 8. I assume they would show just the same, without errors in Netscape Navigator 9.

In fact Netscape Navigator 9 apparently doesn't use the rendering engine of MSIE anymore, but actually uses MSIE itself to display MSIE-only pages. Which should mean that even more MSIE-only sites (all?) would be supported, including ActiveX, etc....

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Originally posted by owenw
Also, didnt they get bought out by AOL now?

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IIRC AOL is the owner yes, but that doesn't mean anything negative at all...

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PS: Netscape is, unlike FF, always properly reconized as the default browser. You wont have any problems clicking on links and MSIE opening instead...

I remember the old Nestcape Navigator....

The only feature i liked the sound of in that change log was the auto correction thing, would be handy as i tend  to do that a lot

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Originally posted by Eddie
The only feature i liked the sound of in that change log was the auto correction thing, would be handy as i tend  to do that a lot

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The new Google Toolbar does that.

Well, it seems it's the end of Netscape
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2242152,00.asp

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
In fact Netscape Navigator 9 apparently doesn't use the rendering engine of MSIE anymore, but actually uses MSIE itself to display MSIE-only pages. Which should mean that even more MSIE-only sites (all?) would be supported, including ActiveX, etc....

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actually, it's just firefox 2.0, so it doesn't have any support for IE-only pages at all, or activex.

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Netscape 9 is not just Firefox 2 with a skin, shawnz.
Netscape and Firefox share the same technology and Gecko rendering engine (rv 1.8.1.11pre), yes, but that doesn't mean Netscape is just only a Firefox skin (not yet). Netscape 9 shares more code with Firefox, than Netscape 8 did, also true...

Both Firefox and Netscape are still different branches based upon the Mozilla technologies, they are not the same thing in a different jacket, and they are not for the same usergroup either (Firefox is more aimed at the developper-usergroup, while Netscape is more aimed at the end-usergroup). Netscape 9 is based upon what Firefox 2 uses, but that does not mean they are the same thing.

If you want Firefox + theme (like some people claim Netscape just is), you can find that here.
(and this is exactly what they recommend people should do if they want to coninue using "netscape" after Februari)

Firefox rant:

Firefox used to crash sometimes for me. Not regularly, but sometimes. It was almost always while viewing WMP or QT content, so I put it down to those plugins, and that there isn't enough isolation between the browser and the plugin. These days I block plugins and javascript by default [they add nothing to the browsing experience, other than weight].

I can't say I haven't had any crashes in the last year. However, I assume that these have mostly been out-of-memory crashes. With the known resource leaks when using Firefox with X, and my 256 MB ram, not to mention all the other stuff I have loaded [usually two Evinces, one or two open offices, Firefox with 200+ tabs, two Emacsen with 20-30 open buffers, terminals and repls, sage, xmms] it's hard to believe it runs at all.

Thankfully I don't have to deal with proprietary plugins so much anymore [the gnu flash clone is well written], and so any crash that has happened during the last few months I attribute to running an unstable and rather buggy old kernel.

The conclusion I've drawn is that Firefox crashes are in fact plugin crashes. Blocking plugins and Javascript, aside from getting rid of the cruft from the net (such as popups and advertisements that steal focus), seem to make for a much better browser.