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RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717)
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Originally posted by absorbation
But Cookie I believe all press and the Internet should be free to express themselves. If newspapers were forced not to publish articles or news stories because one corporation said so, there would be a extreme grey area.
You are confusing two very different things.

When a beta tester recieves a beta to test out, or gets a preview of what MS is busy with, then that is NOT, I repeat NOT, a 'news bulletin' which he might publish!

Being a beta tester involves working with classified information! A beta tester is NOT a news reporter.

A news reporter is someone who might receive information and it is his job to publish this.

A beta tester his job is to NOT publish classified information.

This has got absolutely NOTHING todo with freedom of speech, principle, or whatever else you can come up with.

I challenge you to publish some inside information from any other company you work with and you would know this difference in a hard beat.

Again, leaking such information has got NOTHING, absolutly NOTHING todo with newsletters, or right to publish information. It has EVERYTHING to do with you abusing the trust that MS puts in you.

When they give you anything because you are a beta tester, buttefly or other trustworthy person it means they give it to YOU as a beta tester under NDA. That means that if you publish this in any form you ARE doing illegal things and you DO break their trust.

You can come up with any excuse you like, the thing remains that leaking is breaking trust.

I bet you don't go flapping around what you're girlfriend/boyfriend said to you the other day either? Wait, or let me make an article about it and let's publish it because "I have a freedom of speech" or whatever....

If you don't want MS (or Patchou for that matter!) telling you what to post and what not, and if you can't even make that distinction than you shouldn't be a tester AT ALL! And you shouldn't be trusted with ANY information (including Plus! beta's), because who knows what you might publish. THAT is the principle...

Leaking such stuff is LAME, STUPID, CHILDISH and any other superlative I can't come up with atm, no matter who you are, no matter if the info comes from MS, Patchou, or whatever other company. And I hope Inky and Dwergs read this too, being an MS internal or MVP or not (in fact it makes things even worse).

Yes, it is that strongly I feel about.

This post was edited on 08-16-2008 at 09:30 PM by CookieRevised.
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Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by riahc4 on 08-11-2008 at 09:11 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (14.0.3921.717) - by Basilis on 08-11-2008 at 09:15 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by tony on 08-11-2008 at 09:20 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by mynetx on 08-11-2008 at 09:24 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by bramvandeperre on 08-11-2008 at 09:32 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by Quantum on 08-11-2008 at 09:48 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by Basilis on 08-11-2008 at 09:53 PM
RE: RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by CookieRevised on 08-12-2008 at 12:11 AM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by Justin on 08-11-2008 at 09:54 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by duck! on 08-11-2008 at 09:55 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by Basilis on 08-11-2008 at 10:29 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by absorbation on 08-11-2008 at 10:33 PM
RE: RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by duck! on 08-11-2008 at 11:00 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by absorbation on 08-11-2008 at 11:02 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by Voldemort on 08-11-2008 at 11:09 PM
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RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by Eddie on 08-11-2008 at 11:34 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by PaUrAzZ on 08-11-2008 at 11:43 PM
RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by Willz on 08-12-2008 at 12:45 AM
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RE: Windows Live Messenger 9 (2009) (14.0.3921.717) - by absorbation on 08-12-2008 at 10:23 AM
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