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Originally posted by fernandosk8
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
It is extremely clear in the setup what the sponsor will do.
really??, where one says that the patrocinador is malware,
It is
adware, not malware. Adware isn't nessecairly malware. The term "malware" is used by people to call things they don't like and as such is a very, and I mean very, subjective term, as were adware, spyware, virus, trojan, etc are not; they have fixed and clear definitions...
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Originally posted by fernandosk8
that will seize of your pagina of beginning
EULA, read it...
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Originally posted by fernandosk8
that will secretly send information to C2 Media
Nothing will be send "secretly" at all.
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Originally posted by fernandosk8
that it adds to a bar search and a bar of tools that show announcements
EULA, read it...
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Originally posted by fernandosk8
that they have access to the URLs that we visited and show to different pages which we solicitd
Your browsing behaviour is NOT monitored, only your use of that added search bar is monitored (of course).
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Originally posted by fernandosk8
that it adds icons and undesirable favorites
EULA,
read it...
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Originally posted by fernandosk8
and many of their archives are recognized by main antivirus (Nod32, BitDefender, Kespersky, Norton, AVG, Antivir, Avira, DrWeb, Fortines, McAfee, Panda, TheHacker, VBA32, etc…) like trojan horse (Swizzor), adware or spyware (Lop, AdSpy).
The sponsor is ONLY reconized by SOME minor anti-spyware tools. Reasons behind it is that those tools do NOT make a difference between all the DIFFERENT sponsor packages that exist!!! The sponsor package included in Plus! is a VERY minimized and especially stripped down version of the least intrusive sponsor package of C2Media. Even C2Media (aka lop) has different levels of "sponsors". You can even research this yourself (instead of proclaiming heresay)...
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Originally posted by fernandosk8but many users end up installing it without wishing it (is well by ignorance or not to read)
The blame is NOT upon Plus! for those people not bothering to read something before they install something. Sorry to say this, but it is their own fault if they install something WITHOUT reading something. Yes, accidents do happen, but there is a massive major difference between an 'accidental install' (which can indeed be annoying, but that is why you can very easly uninstall the sponsor) and an install because somebody simply didn't bother to read something or somebody was simply to lazy to read something. And this isn't even 'tricking' people into something, as it is very clearly shown what the two options are, and above all NOTHING is selected by default.
The story would be different if there wasn't any warning at all (this is what the definition of spyware is). But since it is very clearly said what is being installed and what it will do(!), this can NOT be classified as spyware at all! And the user DOES HAVE the possebility to opt out before anything is installed... ALWAYS! Of course, he needs to read what is being installed.
In real life you don't sign a contract either before reading what the contract is about!!!! This is exactly the same for any software; it always has been, and it always will (And the sponsor/EULA, in case of Plus!, doesn't even have a 'fine print' at all, as a real life contract could have.)
You don't like the sponsor, good, fine, that's your perfectly good right!! So don't install it (and if you choose to not install it, NOTHING will be installed EVER); NOTHING is forced upon you in ANY way; You can still use Plus! fully without any trace of the sponsor.
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Originally posted by fernandosk8
if were extremely clearn the setup what the sponsor will do, it would explain everything what I say, and of that way the users would know that they face
Again, READ the EULA, that is what it is there for; End User License AGREEMENT. If you tick (TWICE!) the option to install the sponsor, you are supposed to have read and AGREED to the AGREEMENT;
"I ACCEPT the terms of the SPONSOR'S AGREEMENT".
And as the screenshot shown in my previous post shows, it is VERY clear and it is VERY clear that you will ALWAYS have the choice to choose it or not. In fact, it is much more clear than many other 'sponsors' you wil find in other programs (yes, even the searchbar and browser 'hijacker' of MSN Messenger itself; which is selected by default and lacks the explaination of what it is and what it will do)....
Conclusion : You have every right in the world to not like the sponsor and people do respect that (in fact some hard-core supporters of Plus! don't like the sponsor either; eg: I don't install the sponsor iether, simply because I do not like even adware. Though I understand the need of it, and as such, I do support Plus! in other ways; but nothing has ever been forced upon me and nothing has ever tricked me into installing something I didn't want (because I read stuff before installing something)). The sponsor is optional, you do not have to install it and the choice is very clear. But above all and whatever your stand-point, don't proclaim and/or spread heresay and generalizations, even if you don't like a thing; stick to the facts instead.
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