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RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views?
So frozendaggers, just read all of your posts, you seem pretty knowledgable about the whole situation.

Situation:
Mans walks into a bank wearing a bicycle helmet which covers his face but not his eyes, he's potentially dangerous and could be using it to cover his face so that he will not be seen by cameras. Yet if a muslim woman walks in with her face covered, it's not dangerous, it's just their religion.

People are thinking about safety etc.

The ministry of defence even had an advert once about how we should be able to see peoples faces, they walked up to some taliban people, and they were ready to attack, but as soon as the man took off his sunglasses, they backed down and acknowledged him. People acknowledge with their eyes and the rest of their faces, if we can't see this then it's just wrong.

The way you're saying "we get to wear a crucifix" is idiotic, we can hide the crucifix by putting it under our top, we don't usually walk around with it showing to everyone (not that this matters, as this is about communication), whereas if there are people wearing garments that purpously cover the face, it's intimidating and should be banned.

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Originally posted by FrozenDaggers
It's not to hide their identity, although it might seem that way to you. They feel 'protected' from the eyes of men. It makes them feel safer. And it's their religion. What harm does it cause anyway? Policemen where police hats so you can't see the expression of their eyes/eyebrows... it comes under the same thing.

The policeman statement is utter rubbish, the reason policeman wear their uniform is so that they're easily recognisable and for protection. Never once have I spoken to a policeman with his hat one, whenever they speak to me they always politely take off their hats/helmets and then speak to me.

Also, they're officers of the law, they're made to wear these by the government, whereas the head garments are not necessary and possibly dangerous. Especially in times such as these.

Jack Straw is my favourite politician at the moment, simply because he's making a stand when no other politician has the guts to.
10-07-2006 01:46 PM
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Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by M73A on 10-06-2006 at 05:52 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by haydos on 10-06-2006 at 06:04 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by Menthix on 10-06-2006 at 06:17 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by Joa on 10-06-2006 at 06:22 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by andrewdodd13 on 10-06-2006 at 06:41 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by Voldemort on 10-06-2006 at 06:58 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by Lourix on 10-06-2006 at 07:12 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by Vilkku on 10-06-2006 at 07:15 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by Lourix on 10-06-2006 at 07:20 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by FrozenDaggers on 10-06-2006 at 08:27 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by RaPLeX on 10-06-2006 at 08:46 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by M73A on 10-06-2006 at 09:00 PM
RE: RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by FrozenDaggers on 10-06-2006 at 09:06 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by M73A on 10-06-2006 at 09:13 PM
RE: RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by FrozenDaggers on 10-06-2006 at 09:16 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by M73A on 10-06-2006 at 09:19 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by ShawnZ on 10-06-2006 at 09:21 PM
RE: RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by FrozenDaggers on 10-06-2006 at 09:34 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by M73A on 10-06-2006 at 09:35 PM
RE: RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by FrozenDaggers on 10-06-2006 at 09:37 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by M73A on 10-06-2006 at 09:44 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by GiantSpider on 10-06-2006 at 10:39 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by vaccination on 10-06-2006 at 10:49 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by M73A on 10-07-2006 at 11:11 AM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by GiantSpider on 10-07-2006 at 11:49 AM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-07-2006 at 12:58 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by Lourix on 10-07-2006 at 01:37 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-07-2006 at 01:46 PM
RE: RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by FrozenDaggers on 10-07-2006 at 10:58 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-07-2006 at 11:30 PM
RE: RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by FrozenDaggers on 10-07-2006 at 11:32 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by Chrono on 10-07-2006 at 11:35 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-07-2006 at 11:56 PM
RE: RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by FrozenDaggers on 10-08-2006 at 12:03 AM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-08-2006 at 12:05 AM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by Chrono on 10-08-2006 at 12:08 AM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by MC Inferno on 10-08-2006 at 12:43 AM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-08-2006 at 09:18 AM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-08-2006 at 09:52 AM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by fluffy_lobster on 10-08-2006 at 07:39 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-08-2006 at 08:55 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by Joa on 10-09-2006 at 12:15 AM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by MC Inferno on 10-09-2006 at 12:29 AM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-09-2006 at 06:45 AM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by M73A on 10-09-2006 at 01:44 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-09-2006 at 03:12 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by MC Inferno on 10-09-2006 at 05:24 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by fluffy_lobster on 10-09-2006 at 07:11 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-09-2006 at 07:13 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by fluffy_lobster on 10-09-2006 at 07:31 PM
RE: RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by andrewdodd13 on 10-09-2006 at 07:33 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-09-2006 at 07:35 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by fluffy_lobster on 10-09-2006 at 07:38 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-09-2006 at 07:44 PM
RE: RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by MC Inferno on 10-09-2006 at 08:40 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by Spunky on 10-09-2006 at 08:01 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by user27089 on 10-09-2006 at 08:42 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by Spunky on 10-09-2006 at 08:43 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by MC Inferno on 10-09-2006 at 08:44 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by elzz on 10-12-2006 at 02:00 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by M73A on 10-12-2006 at 03:04 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by CookieRevised on 10-12-2006 at 04:10 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by M73A on 10-12-2006 at 04:51 PM
RE: Jack Straw - Muslim Veils Y/N? Your Views? - by John Anderton on 10-12-2006 at 05:18 PM


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