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WLM is alot less buggy now, and doesn't crash all the time on my PC now, so I can get down to some proper Beta Testing at last instead of just sending crash logs over and over again which weren't related to plus at all

why doesn't patchou just activate www.msgpluslive.net so everything about Messenger Plus! Live on it?

the new site will come online when plus live is released to the public. (it doesn't make much sense to have it online if you still can't download plus live)

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Originally posted by traxor
I'll answer it:

As Patchou will not release a public beta for this version, he has done it in the past, but it has been very rare. He will only release the final product once Windows Live Messenger has been released as a final and not a beta. This is simply because Patchou wants his software to be final, with very few bugs, and bugs that can be easily and quickly fixed, it will take some time to do this (Messenger Plus! Live was only released to beta testers in late February, and since then more and more features have been added, meaning more extensive testing is required).

Sorry if I've drifted off track slightly there, but basically: Patchou won't release Messenger Plus! Live until both Windows Live Messenger and Messenger Plus! Live aren't buggy.

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i know that's final

But it dosn't make any since at all

1st all the world now using betaz i mean there r many beta programs around and they r ok ,, with littel bugs >>> yes but they r ok to be used ,,

2nd i don't thnik microsoft has a definite day to the WML .. we heard it'll be in March then in April then in May and finally maybe in the next year ,, so why patcho still  plaster  in MS dates

3rd now i think after MS at last open the way to use WML i think it's imp. to just open the door to let people enjoy with MPL!4

4th i think also with more people using MPL!4 and reporting for bugs make the final realse came much early ,, and that will be nice

guy it's just thoughts and i'm very very sorry for my bad english

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Originally posted by engooo
we heard it'll be in March then in April then in May and finally maybe in the next year ,, so why patcho still  plaster  in MS dates

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Patchou isn't ready with Plus! Live yet. Some features are missing and some annoying bugs... It's still a race against the clock.

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Originally posted by engooo
1st all the world now using betaz i mean there r many beta programs around and they r ok ,, with littel bugs >>> yes but they r ok to be used

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I agree, there are good betas (and bad ones too ), but it's always up to the creator to decide when he releases software. Patchou decided not to release any Plus! Live beta to public because he wants a stable product for his users and because he doesn't want problems with MS when people start reporting Plus! bugs to MS... Because that will happen when you release it to all the 10million users and MS won't be happy about it. And it's better to keep MS as a friend because Plus! depends on it entirely, if MS gets annoyed with Plus! they could probably find a way to shut it down or at least make it very hard for Plus! to continue.

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Originally posted by MenthiX

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Originally posted by engooo
we heard it'll be in March then in April then in May and finally maybe in the next year ,, so why patcho still  plaster  in MS dates

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Patchou isn't ready with Plus! Live yet. Some features are missing and some annoying bugs... It's still a race against the clock.

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Originally posted by engooo
1st all the world now using betaz i mean there r many beta programs around and they r ok ,, with littel bugs >>> yes but they r ok to be used

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I agree, there are good betas (and bad ones too ), but it's always up to the creator to decide when he releases software. Patchou decided not to release any Plus! Live beta to public because he wants a stable product for his users and because he doesn't want problems with MS when people start reporting Plus! bugs to MS... Because that will happen when you release it to all the 10million users and MS won't be happy about it. And it's better to keep MS as a friend because Plus! depends on it entirely, if MS gets annoyed with Plus! they could probably find a way to shut it down or at least make it very hard for Plus! to continue.

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ok dear i'm totally agree with u ,, MPL!4  is not ready yet

but i'm interest with that point ( MPL!4 will not realse till WML 8.0 Realse )

why ?!! it should be realse when it's ready ,,

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Don't be sorry for your bad English. Your motivation is what you'd be sorry for....

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bro i think i don't make any motivation , it just thoughts

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Originally posted by engooo
why ?!! (Smilie) it should be realse when it's ready ,, (Smilie)

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because WLM is still in BETA, there are still goingt o be more BETA releases of it more likely, and I doubt patchou wants to have to re-release Plus! every time there is a new WLM BETA released to make it compatible again :undecided

If he releases it once the final WLM has been released, then the amount of time between WLM releases it most likely going to be larger, and Patch won't have to release a new, compatible, version of plus so often

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Originally posted by MenthiX
Patchou isn't ready with Plus! Live yet. Some features are missing and some annoying bug

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he could always release 4.00 an fix/add those other buggs an features in 4.10

Dear Sir
I go back to check your new version every week.When the new Plus can be finished

No one knows when the new Plus! Live is going to be ready for public release if that is what you are asking, keep an eye on this threadfor information.