Shoutbox

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Dear Mr Arpijian,

I can completely understatnd why you would want to remove any programs from your website that bundle adware, but I can't see the point in your decision if you remove pieces of software that are widely used containing OPTIONAL adware, this includes the amazing extension for MSN Messenger, "Messenger Plus!", that is created by Patchou.

Messenger Plus! does not tolerate any spyware or un-optional adware, there is a clear choice if you want to adware or not... I know that it is C2Media, and it is apparently "hard" to remove, I have found a lot of times that I have removed it easily. I even have a website called "Messenger Plus! Support" which can be found here: http://www.mpsupport.net.

If you were to use any older version of Messenger Plus! then you would also notice that over the years, the optional sponsor program has changed along with it, definitely improving, this goes from the understanding area, to how to remove and to even the content itself. As Patchou has changed the "Sponsor Agreement" on many occasions, it is now increasingly understandable, and quite obvious that it is optional, and that installing it would install the adware. Patchou has also stripped down the adware, with permission from lop.com, so that it doesn't contain any pornographic material, or malicious content... In the latter version of Messenger Plus!, Patchou has also changed the way that you can uninstall the Optional Sponsor Program, giving you a choice of whether you want to uninstall just the c2media package, or messenger plus! aswell, this includes a folder being placed in C:/Program Files/ called "C2Media", this folder contains the uninstaller... The only way that this sponsor program is made difficult to uninstall, is if Antivirus programs or Adware/Spyware removal programs are installed...

I urge you to reconsider your "policy", which I completely understand, as you are just protecting the computers of those that are recent or new users of this great website, but if the sponsor is optional, which it is in many programs now, then you should just have a warning, but also state that it's optional...

Yours faithfully,

Luke Jones (Traxor)

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http://mpsupport.net
Frequent user of http://shoutbox.menthix.net (Messenger Plus! Community)

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Millenium,

Regardless, we should still try and get them to have programs on there that the adware is optional... Aww well, sent it now anyway



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Good job Traxor that very proffesional but i still think it will stay banned because it does come with adware :/ even tho its optional, its still there.

How come cant some people see the Optional Part in it...

Although i do think that the move by Download.com, although they could also just decalre taht it has spy-/ad-ware.

That's what I don't get, why can't people just read and stuff, if they don't read something right, then the blame somebody else for their mistakes...

I actually prefer this move. If users went to download.com and searched for MSN Messenger to find fun stuff, and met with ~70% negative comments in Messenger Plus! saying it fuxs up their computer, etc. (I know it doesn't, I just mean that the msgplus entry there was full of such comments), they will for sure not download it.

That's my view, at least: there's now one site less of those filled with misinformation about Messenger Plus.

I also agree with this move. Not because it blocks Messenger Plus! But most programs that I download from there I don't want to have Spyware or any ware in them. It's like getting a firewall. Might block some of the good things but it defends you from the bad. Its a good change they did.

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Originally posted by Hobbes
I also agree with this move. Not because it blocks Messenger Plus! But most programs that I download from there I don't want to have Spyware or any ware in them. It's like getting a firewall. Might block some of the good things but it defends you from the bad. Its a good change they did.

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Agreed. If there's a great software like Plus, chances are you'll hear of it elsewhere. It's nice to know you can trust 100% of the software in Download.com now, since previously there were LOTS of small programs really full of forced spyware and adware, unlike Plus, and there was little to no alert about it.

There going to lose money full stop.

What happenes to the people that paid for their program to be used?

the only adware you see is the sponser program, which last i knew you had the option of NOT installing the Sponser Program. So if people dont like spyware, then dont install the Sponser Program. Simple as that.

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Originally posted by vashnik
the only adware you see is the sponser program, which last i knew you had the option of NOT installing the Sponser Program. So if people dont like spyware, then dont install the Sponser Program. Simple as that.

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You think people are smart enough to not install it.
Basically the installer has the capability of carrying spyware which is what they are against. No matter if you can choose this.
I always wanted a download site without Bundled Software And now there is one. Probobly half of the programs and files on Download.com were bundled. Now Download.com saved themselves a lot of space and bandwith. I think this will also discourage people to make bundled softwares