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Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
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RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
Just want to say that what MenthiX said about someone selling out is wrong. Just because someone is still partaking in something doesn't mean that they haven't sold out. It means that they've sold out on their core values, their initial reasons for doing something or even just going against their own beliefs.

I can't really comment on what Patchou has done, but I think he made a business decision that was, whether he's selling out or not, a good move. Something like Messenger Plus! is not going to last forever. If I were in Patchou's shoes and I had the opportunity of selling a thriving business for a good amount and still be involved I would go for it.

However, even though it may've been a solid business decision, that doesn't stop me from thinking that Patchou has sold out a little. I know someone like him who is so dedicated to the Messenger Plus! software could not live off the proceeds whilst keeping to his core beliefs, but he's still sold out. That's the reason why I couldn't bring myself to pressing the 'no' button in this poll.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
A few months ago, he has sold his company and now there are many more people involved in Plus!. Patchou isn't the only one anymore.

I'm sure that many other members will agree with me when I say that involving many more people in Messenger Plus! isn't a good thing. I think the main pull towards Plus! for a lot of us was that it was community-driven. I don't know anything about the employees of Messenger Plus! but I do know that they're doing what they're doing for monetary gain and as a job; their hearts will never be in it as much as if Patchou had passed the gauntlet down to x amount of trusted people in a community like this.

The 'community spirit' will slowly evaporate away.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
He is still in charge of some aspects of it. Just as other people are now in charge for the other bits. Each having their own function. So it does not mean Patchou does not have anything to say anymore (hence this is no sell-out). His official title in the company is Software Architect.

Regardless of what you say. All this says to me is that he's not as personally attached to the software anymore. I don't blame him, but I think it seems like he's chasing other dreams now. A good choice.

Yuna Software is now in charge of Messenger Plus!. Whether Patchou is a 'software architect' or not, it will still no longer be down to him when it comes to financial decisions, cashflow and so on and so forth. If Yuna Software were to say tomorrow "Let's make people pay for the forum", I don't think there's much that could be done to stop them, the same as if they wanted to make adware no longer optional and make Plus! more ad-driven...

Patchou is not in control.
01-17-2010 12:40 AM
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Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by riahc4 on 01-06-2010 at 06:43 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-06-2010 at 07:13 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by robert_dll on 01-06-2010 at 07:17 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Menthix on 01-06-2010 at 07:29 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by andrey on 01-06-2010 at 07:30 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Spunky on 01-06-2010 at 07:30 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Menthix on 01-06-2010 at 07:34 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Spunky on 01-06-2010 at 07:44 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by robert_dll on 01-06-2010 at 09:21 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-06-2010 at 09:25 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by prashker on 01-06-2010 at 09:34 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Thor on 01-06-2010 at 09:36 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-06-2010 at 09:43 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrono on 01-06-2010 at 09:45 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Toxn on 01-06-2010 at 09:47 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by prashker on 01-06-2010 at 09:52 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by blackjack on 01-06-2010 at 10:24 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by robert_dll on 01-07-2010 at 12:20 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by riahc4 on 01-07-2010 at 12:29 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by charlie_su1986 on 01-16-2010 at 06:54 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-16-2010 at 08:01 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-16-2010 at 08:07 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by user27089 on 01-17-2010 at 12:40 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 12:46 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 01:42 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 01:53 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 02:00 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 02:08 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 02:33 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 03:51 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 04:24 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by kezz on 01-17-2010 at 10:38 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Rolando on 01-17-2010 at 11:29 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 11:43 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Menthix on 01-17-2010 at 12:47 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 12:54 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 02:04 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 02:18 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 02:56 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 03:15 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 03:15 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 03:32 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 04:02 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 04:05 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 04:43 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 04:44 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 05:43 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 07:48 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 06:38 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 06:47 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 07:02 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 07:13 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 07:22 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 07:31 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 08:21 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 08:23 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 08:55 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 09:04 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 09:14 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 09:26 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by vaccination on 01-17-2010 at 09:49 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Menthix on 01-17-2010 at 11:41 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by stoshrocket on 01-17-2010 at 11:56 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Rolando on 01-18-2010 at 12:59 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Th3rmal on 01-18-2010 at 01:03 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by charlie_su1986 on 01-18-2010 at 08:35 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-18-2010 at 01:22 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-18-2010 at 10:44 AM
RE: RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by user27089 on 01-18-2010 at 06:07 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chris4 on 01-18-2010 at 02:05 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by WDZ on 01-18-2010 at 02:24 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chris4 on 01-18-2010 at 02:56 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Hank on 01-19-2010 at 04:32 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-18-2010 at 02:31 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Mnjul on 01-18-2010 at 08:59 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by user27089 on 01-18-2010 at 09:25 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 12:35 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Menthix on 01-18-2010 at 08:45 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by user27089 on 01-18-2010 at 09:29 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by prashker on 01-18-2010 at 09:34 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-18-2010 at 09:35 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by andrey on 01-18-2010 at 09:40 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by vaccination on 01-18-2010 at 09:48 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by user27089 on 01-18-2010 at 10:09 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-18-2010 at 11:11 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Menthix on 01-18-2010 at 11:19 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-19-2010 at 12:45 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 12:55 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by andrey on 01-19-2010 at 01:00 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrono on 01-19-2010 at 01:13 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 01:23 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 01:39 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-19-2010 at 02:13 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 02:17 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 02:21 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 02:18 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 02:22 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 02:26 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 02:27 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 02:33 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 02:36 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by albert on 01-19-2010 at 02:36 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 02:39 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 02:40 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-19-2010 at 02:42 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 02:43 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 02:44 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 02:48 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Lou on 01-19-2010 at 03:12 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 03:18 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 03:30 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Rolando on 01-19-2010 at 03:46 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 05:51 AM
RE: RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by 5n4k3 on 01-19-2010 at 12:53 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Hank on 01-19-2010 at 05:55 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by vaccination on 01-19-2010 at 08:18 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-19-2010 at 09:16 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Lou on 01-19-2010 at 10:58 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 01:17 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by 5n4k3 on 01-19-2010 at 01:29 PM
RE: RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 01:57 PM
RE: RE: RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by 5n4k3 on 01-19-2010 at 02:12 PM
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 02:27 PM
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by 5n4k3 on 01-19-2010 at 02:50 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 02:56 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by 5n4k3 on 01-19-2010 at 03:02 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 05:58 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 09:28 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-19-2010 at 10:06 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 10:39 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by riahc4 on 01-19-2010 at 11:44 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-20-2010 at 08:02 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by riahc4 on 01-22-2010 at 04:09 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-22-2010 at 08:42 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by YottabyteWizard on 01-25-2010 at 08:50 AM


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