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RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out?
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Originally posted by traxor
I'm sure that many other members will agree with me when I say that involving many more people in Messenger Plus! isn't a good thing.
I disagree... :p

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Originally posted by traxor
I think the main pull towards Plus! for a lot of us was that it was community-driven. I don't know anything about the employees of Messenger Plus! but I do know that they're doing what they're doing for monetary gain and as a job; their hearts will never be in it as much as if Patchou had passed the gauntlet down to x amount of trusted people in a community like this.

The 'community spirit' will slowly evaporate away.
That may all be very true, but the fact is also that the development of Plus! was as good as nothing over the past months/year. And that was just because it got so big it wasn't possible anymore for only one guy programming the thing (and managing everything else around it at the same time).

Hence the reason why Patchou has made the move he made, for the benefit of Plus! itself. In that aspect, having multiple people working on Plus!, is a very good thing. If he wouldn't have done what he did then there would most-likely never be a Plus! 5 btw.

(I'm not saying anything about the reason why those 'other' people want to work for it though)...

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Originally posted by traxor
Regardless of what you say. All this says to me is that he's not as personally attached to the software anymore. I don't blame him, but I think it seems like he's chasing other dreams now. A good choice.
That is both true and false...
He is personally still attached to the software in the way that he still cares about it. But he is not personally attached anymore in a legal way. So if something went wrong, you need to blame Yuna Software, not Patchou.

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Originally posted by traxor
If Yuna Software were to say tomorrow "Let's make people pay for the forum", I don't think there's much that could be done to stop them, the same as if they wanted to make adware no longer optional and make Plus! more ad-driven...
Partially wrong. Yuna Software has no say what-so-ever about the forums (Patchou made sure of that). They do own the domain though, but not the forum itself, nor its content. Also, Patchou has stipulated some things in the contracts which prevents Yuna Software from going 'overboard'.

Again, all reasons that this is not a sell-out at all. A sell-out would mean that they can do whatever they want. They sure can not.

And also shows that one-liners like "Patchou is in no control" or "He doesn't own Plus! anymore" can seriously be misinterpreted. It isn't that black 'n white.

This post was edited on 01-17-2010 at 05:16 AM by CookieRevised.
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01-17-2010 01:42 AM
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Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by riahc4 on 01-06-2010 at 06:43 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-06-2010 at 07:13 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by robert_dll on 01-06-2010 at 07:17 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Menthix on 01-06-2010 at 07:29 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by andrey on 01-06-2010 at 07:30 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Spunky on 01-06-2010 at 07:30 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Menthix on 01-06-2010 at 07:34 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Spunky on 01-06-2010 at 07:44 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by robert_dll on 01-06-2010 at 09:21 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-06-2010 at 09:25 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by prashker on 01-06-2010 at 09:34 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Thor on 01-06-2010 at 09:36 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-06-2010 at 09:43 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrono on 01-06-2010 at 09:45 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Toxn on 01-06-2010 at 09:47 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by prashker on 01-06-2010 at 09:52 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by blackjack on 01-06-2010 at 10:24 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by robert_dll on 01-07-2010 at 12:20 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by riahc4 on 01-07-2010 at 12:29 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by charlie_su1986 on 01-16-2010 at 06:54 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-16-2010 at 08:01 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-16-2010 at 08:07 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by user27089 on 01-17-2010 at 12:40 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 12:46 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 01:42 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 01:53 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 02:00 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 02:08 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 02:33 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 03:51 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 04:24 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by kezz on 01-17-2010 at 10:38 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Rolando on 01-17-2010 at 11:29 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 11:43 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Menthix on 01-17-2010 at 12:47 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 12:54 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 02:04 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 02:18 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 02:56 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 03:15 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 03:15 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 03:32 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 04:02 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-17-2010 at 04:05 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 04:43 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 04:44 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 05:43 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 07:48 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 06:38 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 06:47 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 07:02 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 07:13 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 07:22 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-17-2010 at 07:31 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 08:21 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 08:23 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 08:55 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 09:04 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-17-2010 at 09:14 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-17-2010 at 09:26 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by vaccination on 01-17-2010 at 09:49 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Menthix on 01-17-2010 at 11:41 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by stoshrocket on 01-17-2010 at 11:56 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Rolando on 01-18-2010 at 12:59 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Th3rmal on 01-18-2010 at 01:03 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by charlie_su1986 on 01-18-2010 at 08:35 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-18-2010 at 01:22 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-18-2010 at 10:44 AM
RE: RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by user27089 on 01-18-2010 at 06:07 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chris4 on 01-18-2010 at 02:05 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by WDZ on 01-18-2010 at 02:24 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chris4 on 01-18-2010 at 02:56 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Hank on 01-19-2010 at 04:32 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-18-2010 at 02:31 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Mnjul on 01-18-2010 at 08:59 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by user27089 on 01-18-2010 at 09:25 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 12:35 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Menthix on 01-18-2010 at 08:45 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by user27089 on 01-18-2010 at 09:29 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by prashker on 01-18-2010 at 09:34 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-18-2010 at 09:35 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by andrey on 01-18-2010 at 09:40 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by vaccination on 01-18-2010 at 09:48 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by user27089 on 01-18-2010 at 10:09 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-18-2010 at 11:11 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Menthix on 01-18-2010 at 11:19 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-19-2010 at 12:45 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 12:55 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by andrey on 01-19-2010 at 01:00 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrono on 01-19-2010 at 01:13 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 01:23 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 01:39 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-19-2010 at 02:13 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 02:17 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 02:21 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 02:18 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 02:22 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 02:26 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 02:27 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 02:33 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 02:36 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by albert on 01-19-2010 at 02:36 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 02:39 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 02:40 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-19-2010 at 02:42 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 02:43 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 02:44 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 02:48 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Lou on 01-19-2010 at 03:12 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 03:18 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 03:30 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Rolando on 01-19-2010 at 03:46 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 05:51 AM
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RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Hank on 01-19-2010 at 05:55 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by vaccination on 01-19-2010 at 08:18 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-19-2010 at 09:16 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Lou on 01-19-2010 at 10:58 AM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 01:17 PM
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RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Discrate on 01-19-2010 at 02:56 PM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by 5n4k3 on 01-19-2010 at 03:02 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by Chrissy on 01-19-2010 at 05:58 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 09:28 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-19-2010 at 10:06 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by toddy on 01-19-2010 at 10:39 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by riahc4 on 01-19-2010 at 11:44 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-20-2010 at 08:02 AM
RE: RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by riahc4 on 01-22-2010 at 04:09 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by CookieRevised on 01-22-2010 at 08:42 PM
RE: Did, in your honest opinion, Patchou sell out? - by YottabyteWizard on 01-25-2010 at 08:50 AM


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