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Originally posted by gfd
And I was wondering, has ANYBODY received any official response from Grammasoft?


Not me
Yes I am alpha-testing
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12-21-2002 09:08 PM
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I don't know if anyone has posted this, but there is a version 2 out for "Advanced Messenger Plus"....is this possibly a rip of mp2? i haven't downloaded it yet....I was just wondering about that...
01-04-2003 07:29 AM
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No... I know the Advanced Messenger program version 2 has been around for a while.
01-04-2003 11:34 AM
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Ive posted about this advanced thing but when i found it it was only ver 1.summat

hmm, Patchou i think everyone loves your prog so much!

:bow: Patchou :bow:
01-04-2003 11:40 AM
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hmm, Patchou i think everyone loves your prog so much!

:bow: Patchou :bow:


Hell yeah!!!!

:bow: I bow down to the almighty creator of Messenger Plus! :bow:
01-04-2003 12:19 PM
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And MP2 will be able to be changed into wma format  :shocked:  :wink:

LOL!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.gramasoft.com/colorpicker/index.html
Wheres the HTML code?

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lol, thank you for the suggestion but the source code of Messenger Plus! is mine and there is no exception :)

At least they are not using Patchou's code.
01-04-2003 01:35 PM
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Just remember everyone, as the old saying goes imitation is the most sincear for of flaterry.  I.e. they only use the say name n stuff because they can only hope that one day they may be half as good as Messenger Plus 2!  Great job Patchou keep them on their toes.
01-10-2003 01:08 AM
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Damn, should have posted earlier, 'cause it pisses me off.

Down-right (correct ?) disgraceful I think, but aren't there laws that apply to this kind of abuse, like selling programs that use capabilities of other programs that are free of charge, that way, u can stop them from releasing this bullsh*t (can I say bullshit on international teleforum ;-) ?).

And anyone who is sort of defending Gramasoft, you are wrong. I've seen post where they say things such as
"there have been programs that to things long before Patchou did them"
-- Probably, people usually get their ideas from other software (most of us have very little imagination when it comes to developing software)
"they have a log viewer"
-- Er, open up explorer, there's ur log viewer right there, and it only cost u two keypressed (WIN+E) (and some mouseclicks :-) ) Sure, not so user-friendly, but hey, you've worked with Windows before, right
"they have other programs such as blah-blah and ye-ye-ye"
-- Sure, but look for it on the net and u'll find tons of freeware and at least one is bound to be better (trust me, I looked)
"i like their aaa colorpicker"
-- U're an idiot, buy a book of Visual Basic or go fetch one at the local library, read three chapters and make one urself

And off course, they didn't answer my mail either, probably because those kids are most certain younger than 6 and just asked their dad to put up a link to ur program.

Anyways, don't bother to much, guessing from reviews from several sources, their program is as popular as a public toilet (and smells about as good too) (again, pardon the expression, it ain't my day :-) )

[edit] didn't mean to be offensive in any way, but I do agree that Gram(m)asoft ripped Patchou's ideas [/edit]

Greetz

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01-10-2003 08:23 AM
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RE: Rip-off
What Gramasoft is doing is TOTALLY illegal. Well at least in Australia, but i think we share international copyright laws.
Patchou's "Messenger Plus!" was an original concept, and by law, Patchou has the legal right to that concept. It doesnt have to have the little (c) symbol to make it copyrighted, as this imposed by default.
You could easily prove GRAMASOFT to be in breach of copyright.

I have sent complaints to CNet and ZDNet (same thing???) alerting them to the issue, and suggesting the file be removed.

Any idea what country GRAMASOFT is based in?
01-10-2003 05:20 PM
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The IP it's registered under appears to be Chinese > 61.135.129.91

Registrant:
Jian Qiu

Hang Zhou, Zhe Jiang 310020
Hang Zhou,Zhe Jiang,CN 310020


Domain Name:gramasoft.com
Record last updated at 2002-09-02 11:23:51
Record created on 2001/11/6
Record expired on 2003/11/6


Domain servers in listed order:
ns.dns.net.cn 61.135.129.11
ns7.dns.net.cn 61.135.129.16

Administrator:
Qiu, Jian clevermouse2001@hotmail.com 0571-89697074

Qing Chun Road 907# 701
Hang Zhou,Zhe Jiang,CN 310020

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DOMAIN, SOHU yuming@sohu-inc.com Fax: +86.1065102179
01-10-2003 05:35 PM
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