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Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
Seems that terroism has won the war against spain. The spanish have retreated.

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you have no right to say that!!! all spain wanted a change since before any of this happened! we were against the war in irak, it has NOTHING to do with the last events

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Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
Seems that terroism has won the war against spain. The spanish have retreated.

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*I think it's not fair that you say that, if you read the posts above you'll see how might be wrong.

(I appologize for not having translated the mail yet, I've been busy)

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Originally posted by Pappapishu
we were against the war in irak, it has NOTHING to do with the last events

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we? do you speak for 100% of your country?

Look at it this way, days before your "general" election those bombings happen, then a shock poll result. Doesnt this just suggestion Spain is swayed by terroism? If these bombings hadnt have happened, would we have the same party in power? Results affected by external unpredictable factors cannot be fair can they?

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If no one has commented on WestCoastKillaz post why should mine be singled out? I see that as an insult to my beliefs, GB's fault? WTF?

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What a pity reporting your post will be useless...

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My post doesnt break these forum rules; remember everyone has the right to an opinion, that is MY own impression of the events. Thanks for the concern though.

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Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
do you speak for 100% of your country?

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90%+

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Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
affected by external unpredictable factors

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unpredictable? Johnny, I (we) don't think so. Our just-gone president didn't hear what spanish people (as well as most people in the world) said: We don't want a war. And when we said "don't" we meant "don't". But no, he did war. Now, they attac us. That isn't unpredictable. That's a response for that. If spain wouldn't have gone to Irak to make war, that wouldn't have happened.

Oh well, I didn't want to talk about that, anyway... I think I have to.

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Originally posted by J_Mac
Seems that terroism has won the war against spain. The spanish have retreated.

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Noone wins any war. They're just stupid and never make sense. The spainish haven't retreated. We just don't like war. I can't see the point of it.

Oh, wait, now you may be thinking: "If I was the spanish president I'd bomb Irak, Al-Qaeda, etc.... They deserve it". That' isn't the way

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Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
If no one has commented on WestCoastKillaz post why should mine be singled out?

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I have nothing to say about his post. He think's bush is an idiot. Me too. and I also wonder: why do we, spanish people, ahve to do what bush says?

Other posts of mine where deleted for much less, I know, but well.

Pappapishu speaks for 92% of the country.
Socialists would have won anyway, but maybe the difference wouldn't have been so huge, why?
PP, the former govenrment manpulated information and blamed ETA from the beginning. Blaming ETA might result in better electoral results  for them, because they are the whole opposite of nationalism.
But sadly the truth got to the light and the finally had to say it was probably Al-Qaeda, but with priority set on ETA. Today noone has a doubt it was Al-Qaeda. Spanish Secret Services said it was very likely that is was no ETA, but anyway, PP kept blaming them and manipulating TV-channels, and newsletters to make us believe it was ETA and gain some votes more.
As said this came to light and the rage against PP was big (as it was with the war, with the constant TV manipulation, with the Prestige wreck, etc.).

So while respecting the victims in your shoes I wouldn't had said it, at least in the way you did. Of course I respect your opinion, but there are ways to say things (you know, you actually are smod and know things can be said in many different ways).

On the other hand,  WestCoastKillaz or whatever his name is is now banned, I think ir makes not much sense to discuss about what he said. And I think the post can be deleted. I actually thought the post was already reported for unappropiate use of language.

Finally, some comments that make sence! I see, and understand all those Choli and KeyStorm.

I'm just wondering why a new leading before he's even sworn in (or whatever you call that process in spain) attacks other world leaders. I'm just questioning if what has happened with the politics in spain over the past few days has been fuled on personal emotion rather then country well being.

I started typing my reply before your post was thre, sorry. I edited mine now though.

btw, any problems with posts being removed as mentioned in one of your earlier posts should be questioned at the time. Forum rules don't ban swearing either, as long as it's used in moderation. I feel removing WestCoastKillaz would be hypocritical as it's his right to free speach; and it isnt preaching.

Well Johnny. nice to see you get our point

fell free to ask us anything you don't understand

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Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
I feel removing WestCoastKillaz would be hypocritical as it's his right to free speach; and it isnt preaching.

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I removed my sarcastic remark. Anyway I think talking so (i mean the banned one) doesn't deserve any arguement, because there's no point in saying that, at least in that way he did. Your comment had more reflection behind. I admit my condolences with the victims drove me to say that about reporting...
I hope you can accept my apologies.

I don't look for or enjoy arguments. I just like to question and see other points of view. While expressing my own. In no way do I see the way I see as the end all of everything. I know the world is full of different cultures and opinions. I should say thanks to yous for sharing those!